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Old 04-28-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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but that's just it, we need to figure out how to beat those QB's if we are going to win a playoff game

You get a QB that throws quick or can move around a little be to avoid our rush for a few seconds and we are shredded if our corners can't keep up on crossing routes.
Manning was the only QB that had any answer for our rush.

Brady didn't. Wilson didn't. Kap didn't. The second Raider game showed just how much the field condition slowed our rush and not the talent/scheme.

Manning is really the only guy who's proven he can consistently best this pass rush. I'd argue Rodgers can as well, but that's it.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:27 AM   #2
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Manning was the only QB that had any answer for our rush.

Brady didn't. Wilson didn't. Kap didn't. The second Raider game showed just how much the field condition slowed our rush and not the talent/scheme.

Manning is really the only guy who's proven he can consistently best this pass rush. I'd argue Rodgers can as well, but that's it.
manning = 2 losses this year and a kick from the playoffs if we reach them

seems like Colts figured it out too in the 2nd half
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:32 AM   #3
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manning = 2 losses this year and a kick from the playoffs if we reach them

seems like Colts figured it out too in the 2nd half
The first game we held them to 7 pts in the 2nd half.
The second game we held them to 9 pts in the 2nd half.

Our offense wasted opportunities in both games and didn't score. We also started slowly and allowed them to score in the first half.

We need to start fast. I don't know how many games last year we just didn't do much of anything for the first half on offense. Our offense didn't move the chains and didn't sustain drives. We had ZERO big play ability at the WR position and couldn't hang in a shoot out...
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:34 AM   #4
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I'm afraid if KC stays put in 2nd round there will be a run on ILBs and they will miss out on a top guy.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:36 AM   #5
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I'm afraid if KC stays put in 2nd round there will be a run on ILBs and they will miss out on a top guy.
If you're talking about a replacement for DJ in this draft I don't see it. There are guys that can run and cover but they're undersized or unimpressive in other areas.

If you're just talking about a run stuffing Belcher-backer there are later round options...
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:39 AM   #6
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If you're talking about a replacement for DJ in this draft I don't see it. There are guys that can run and cover but they're undersized or unimpressive in other areas.

If you're just talking about a run stuffing Belcher-backer there are later round options...
Trade for Mychal Kendricks. Problem solved.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:41 AM   #7
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If you're talking about a replacement for DJ in this draft I don't see it. There are guys that can run and cover but they're undersized or unimpressive in other areas.

If you're just talking about a run stuffing Belcher-backer there are later round options...
I think Kendrick and Anthony will both be better, immediately, than any version of DJ from 2005-2009.

The Chiefs don't need a "Thumper". They need two athletic, smart ILBer's like the Seahawks have in Smith and Wagner.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:43 AM   #8
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The Chiefs don't need a "Thumper". They need two athletic, smart ILBer's like the Seahawks have in Smith and Wagner.
For our 3-4 we definitely do need a thumper...
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For our 3-4 we definitely do need a thumper...
I think that's only because they haven't been able to acquire the right pieces.

They had high hopes for JMJ but he hasn't been the Malcolm Smith type guy they had hoped for initially. They're looking for guys like Smith and Wagner and once they acquire them, look out. This defense will be Top 5, at least.
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For our 3-4 we definitely do need a thumper...
Eh, I don't necessarily disagree, but in today's practical run-n-shoot NFL, ILB'ers that are mobile and can cover are every bit as important as the Levon Kirkland types that are there essentially to stop the run.
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I think Kendrick and Anthony will both be better, immediately, than any version of DJ from 2005-2009.

The Chiefs don't need a "Thumper". They need two athletic, smart ILBer's like the Seahawks have in Smith and Wagner.
My thoughts as well. Would love to have 2 ILB's that can play all 3 downs.
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I'm afraid if KC stays put in 2nd round there will be a run on ILBs and they will miss out on a top guy.
There are only two ILBer's worthy of top 49 picks for the Chiefs system, IMO: Kendricks and Anthony. It's likely that a plug & play receiver will be available at #49, so an ILBer at #18 wouldn't be shocking in the least.

Reid drafted his brother, who's been an outstanding pro, and Kendricks has all of the measurable and qualities to be a very good ILB in the NFL.
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