Chiefs *****The Chris Conley Thread***** - Page 15

Dunerdr · 05-02-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

We really don't.

Every one of our skill position starters (Jamaal, Kelce, Maclin), along with the guys that will get significant playing time (DAT, Knile), are faster than average for their position.. Except for Avant. And who knows if he'll even be the #2 by mid season.

I'm still thinking from a total franchise perspective. When Dorsey took over we had to be the slowest team in the nfl. And that was with physical freaks Houston, Poe, and jamaal. And it's been proven bowe/avant/Hemingway guys just are t getting it done with smith. I'll take the "slow" 4.35 guy that's gonna be two yards open in 10 steps.

In all seriousness will someone bitch slap oaklandhater. He's not even making shit for arguments (scheme,tape, anything that matters) he's just in here bitching and crying like a little kid that he didn't get who the talking heads were pimping. This guy looks to be a better coachable option than strong or dgb for this offense. And he looks to play fast as f.

Had a nice argument with a Baltimore can about whether or not this kid plays faster than Perriman who ran an unofficial 4.29.

ct · 05-02-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

"At his best with one-cut routes (slants, outs, digs, etc.), using his strong plant foot to explode downfield."

This. We need dynamic WRs that Alex can throw the ball to quickly.

This, again!

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Poe is laughing somewhere

Exactly

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I like that he actually uses his HANDS to catch the ball. (I am looking your direction Bowe)

This a million times!!

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Love this pick. He is a player. Great athlete and looks great in those highlight reels. He got away with beating many players with pure speed (something that is harder in the NFL) but he tracks the ball well, uses his body well, and catches the balls outside his body. Also pretty quick. Given good coaching, he could be something pretty special for us.

Gotta love some of those passes from Aaron Murray in the highlight reel too..

Amen brutha !! Milk made the analysis about the Morse pick exposing how Reid/Dorsey really feel about Kush and I agree. This pick of Conley might give a little insight of how Reid especially feels about Murray and his future throwing to Conley. Coincedence ? Maybe. But I doubt it.

milkman · 05-02-2015, 08:28 AM

If Lucy keeps agreeing with my opinions, I'm going to have to revisit those opinions.

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2015, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

If Lucy keeps agreeing with my opinions, I'm going to have to revisit those opinions.

Don't ever doubt "Chiefshrinking". It works !!

DJ's left nut · 05-02-2015, 08:39 AM

Man, there's a lot of reerun in this thread.

Conley is slow now? Jesus. I feel like most of the bitching in this thread or demands for Strong over Conley are nothing more than someone having read draft guides written by idiots that have the Chiefs taking Landon Collins. If you'd do nothing but watch Conley alongside Strong, you'd have come away saying Conley is the far better player. Then when you go through their combine times, you'd have started thinking about Conley as a 2nd rounder.

Conley's raw, sure. He's also freakishly athletic and incredibly intelligent. He gets beat in press because of poor hand technique, not strength. He has the physical ability to get by DBs off the jam pretty easily and the quickness to pull away. He's actually very very smooth for a big-bodied, lengthy WR. That's a damn tough skill to find as most long WRs struggle out of their breaks. Conley really doesn't. He's not Cooper out there but he's a hell of a lot smoother/more sudden out of his cuts than DGB.

I liked him as a possible 4th rounder but I also knew that some team might fall in love with him and take him a round before that. Turns out that was us but I'm not heartbroken over that. The guy has the skills to be both the large catch-radius possession WR we need and someone that can house a bubble screen or out-jump a DB to high-point a pass. He's a natural hand-catcher so he uses that catch-radius to full effect. That's nice to see and tough to teach.

Yeah, he might be out of the league in a few years...and? He's a 3rd rounder, about 1/4 of those become starters. Yeah, the odds favor him not succeeding but that's just the nature of the draft. He has every phsyical tool imaginable and with just a little technique work he could be a really nice #2 in the future. If Wilson/DAT/Rogers can hold down the fort while Conley learns, we'll be in really nice shape possibly as early as the mid-point of this season.

I like this pick a lot.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 05-02-2015, 08:44 AM

Strong looks terrible. He plays much smaller than he is

Brock · 05-02-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

conley will need to hit the weight room... i don't expect immediate results in year one, but I do see a lot of go routes/deep post patterns out the gate

One of the best athletes at the combine needs to hit the weight room.

Where do you people come from?

**HemiEd** · 05-02-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again, shut the **** up

From a guy that doesn't know how to spell Tyler Lockett's name. There is no e on the end.

**RealSNR** · 05-02-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

It's hard not to get excited about a great athlete.

I like that he actually uses his HANDS to catch the ball. (I am looking your direction Bowe)

You know who doesn't do that?

Jaelen Strong.

It would have been hilarious to draft Jaelen Strong and see the EXACT SAME haters of Bowe turn to hate Strong.

ToxSocks · 05-02-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Strong looks terrible. He plays much smaller than he is

I dont understand the infatuation with Strong. Why are people so enamored with a slow footed WR that gets no separation.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the two DB's we drafted put up some of their best game film while playing Strong

gonefishin53 · 05-02-2015, 09:28 AM

Conley is really smart. He'll be attached to his buddy, Aaron Murray, from now until training camp learning the playbook, play calls, and route tree. Expect Conley to show up at training camp prepared to be an impact rookie.

tredadda · 05-02-2015, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Grading Chiefs' Chris Conley Pick http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ign=web--art-- via @bleacherreport

So you know nothing about the guy yet hate the pick and you base why you don't like him on analysis from Bleacher Report? You should probably just stop commenting on him.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-670901	Man, there's a lot of reerun in this thread. Conley is slow now? Jesus. I feel like most of the bitching in this thread or demands for Strong over Conley are nothing more than someone having read draft guides written by idiots that have the Chiefs taking Landon Collins. If you'd do nothing but watch Conley alongside Strong, you'd have come away saying Conley is the far better player. Then when you go through their combine times, you'd have started thinking about Conley as a 2nd rounder. Conley's raw, sure. He's also freakishly athletic and incredibly intelligent. He gets beat in press because of poor hand technique, not strength. He has the physical ability to get by DBs off the jam pretty easily and the quickness to pull away. He's actually very very smooth for a big-bodied, lengthy WR. That's a damn tough skill to find as most long WRs struggle out of their breaks. Conley really doesn't. He's not Cooper out there but he's a hell of a lot smoother/more sudden out of his cuts than DGB. I liked him as a possible 4th rounder but I also knew that some team might fall in love with him and take him a round before that. Turns out that was us but I'm not heartbroken over that. The guy has the skills to be both the large catch-radius possession WR we need and someone that can house a bubble screen or out-jump a DB to high-point a pass. He's a natural hand-catcher so he uses that catch-radius to full effect. That's nice to see and tough to teach. Yeah, he might be out of the league in a few years...and? He's a 3rd rounder, about 1/4 of those become starters. Yeah, the odds favor him not succeeding but that's just the nature of the draft. He has every phsyical tool imaginable and with just a little technique work he could be a really nice #2 in the future. If Wilson/DAT/Rogers can hold down the fort while Conley learns, we'll be in really nice shape possibly as early as the mid-point of this season. I like this pick a lot. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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