WWII Deaths

[Dave Lane]

I love idiots who think they understand WWII. Really? the Germans and the Russians get along? Stalin and Hitler were both maniacal egomaniacs. Now to mention Hitler was running a far right state that had killed 1000s of German communists to come to power. No way these two powers are allied for any length of time let alone to fight all of the allies.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I love idiots who think they understand WWII. Really? the Germans and the Russians get along? Stalin and Hitler were both maniacal egomaniacs. Now to mention Hitler was running a far right state that had killed 1000s of German communists to come to power. No way these two powers are allied for any length of time let alone to fight all of the allies.

It's a made up scenario, a "what if" if that makes sense dick loon. Stalin wasn't exactly a big fan of capitalism either but he sided with the USA and the allies out of a deal with the devil of convenience.

Get laid dude. Seriously.

[Otter]

Hey Loon! The Nazi's were Christian!



FETCH BOY!!!

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Otter

It's a made up scenario, a "what if" if that makes sense dick loon. Stalin wasn't exactly a big fan of capitalism either but he sided with the USA and the allies out of a deal with the devil of convenience.

Get laid dude. Seriously.

They also "allied" (though that is too strong a term, actually) in the form of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was a non-aggression pact but had a secret protocol to conquer Poland and divide it between them.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

They also "allied" (though that is too strong a term, actually) in the form of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was a non-aggression pact but had a secret protocol to conquer Poland and divide it between them.

As another "what if"...

If I remember correctly didn't Japan kind of hoodwink Germany by not attacking Russia thru Siberia simultaneously and hitting Russia from two frontsl? Take away the mushroom cloud maker and there's a couple cool scenarios that one can dream up.

Neat stuff.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Otter

As another "what if"...

If I remember correctly didn't Japan kind of hoodwink Germany by not attacking Russia thru Siberia simultaneously and hitting Russia from two frontsl? Take away the mushroom cloud maker and there's a couple cool scenarios that one can dream up.

Neat stuff.

I'm not aware of any formal agreement or promise by the Japanese to Germany regarding attacking the USSR.

There were actually some very serious battles (heavy skirmishes perhaps?) along the Soviet/Manchurian border between USSR and Japanese forces. They were the first battles that Zhukov was involved in actually, IIRC.

Had Japan been more aggressive, even in feinting attacks, they could have helped the Germans substantially by potentially typing up Soviet troops. As it was, they basically got beat and went back to focusing on the stuff that really mattered to them -- China and their seagoing power focus.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I'm not aware of any formal agreement or promise by the Japanese to Germany regarding attacking the USSR.

Not much but the best I could find on short notice:

http://www.haciendapub.com/randomnot...strategic-plan

The German Strategy was of course to crush the USSR by a two-front attack: The German Germand High CommandPanzers were to roll into the USSR from the west, which actually took place on June 22, 1941, and the Japanese Imperial Army was to attack Siberia from the east, which never took place. As a result, we shall see what actually happened.