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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:33 PM   #196
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I'd switch romo and luck. Luck turns it over alot still and romo has been a badass for years.

Yeah yeah, playoff choker Yada yada
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:33 PM   #197
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Yep. A lot of the very elite QBs in the league are on their way out. Wilson is part of the new school that can hopefully take their place.
It sucks because there haven't exactly been alot of new guys at that level right away coming in.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:42 PM   #198
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You left this important piece of information out.

This could be because Russell Wilson holds onto the football Longer than 2.90 seconds avg per snap that his OL gives him.

http://bit.ly/1vBeLqh
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:44 PM   #199
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Yeah it's debatable. That's why I think in each tier, it basically comes down to personal preference which QB is better than which. But there is a gap between tiers.

I'd bump Wilson to tier 2 and lower Luck to tier 2 as well.

Romo and Brees have legitimate cases to be in tier 1. Brees just had a down year and Romo had an incredible year. Depends on your opinion, I suppose.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:46 PM   #200
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You left this important piece of information out.

This could be because Russell Wilson holds onto the football Longer than 2.90 seconds avg per snap that his OL gives him.

http://bit.ly/1vBeLqh

You're ****ing stupid.

Is it supposed to be a negative that a guy does a good job of extending the play?

In the next paragraph it states that his QB rating when he throws the ball quickly (in less than 2.5 seconds) is the highest in the league.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:55 PM   #201
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You're ****ing stupid.

Is it supposed to be a negative that a guy does a good job of extending the play?

In the next paragraph it states that his QB rating when he throws the ball quickly (in less than 2.5 seconds) is the highest in the league.
" When Wilson does get rid of the ball quickly (2.5 seconds or less), he actually has the top QB rating in the league (113.2) and a gaudy 73.9% completion rate.

When he holds on to the ball 2.6 seconds or longer (54% of his dropbacks) his QB rating (75.7) plummets to 17th in the league."

Many hate Alex for this and say that it's just screen passes and short passes. The same should apply.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:00 PM   #202
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" When Wilson does get rid of the ball quickly (2.5 seconds or less), he actually has the top QB rating in the league (113.2) and a gaudy 73.9% completion rate.

When he holds on to the ball 2.6 seconds or longer (54% of his dropbacks) his QB rating (75.7) plummets to 17th in the league."

Many hate Alex for this and say that it's just screen passes and short passes. The same should apply.
And yet he's still TOP TEN IN YARDS PER COMPLETION EVERY YEAR.

Give it a rest. He and Alex are not similar.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:04 PM   #203
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Wilson is better than everyone in his tier. Come on now. In your scenario, he's top 10 at worst.
Just because he's "better" than those guys doesn't mean he's a Tier 2 player.

There's no way in the world I'd give up two first round picks for a 5'10 game manager that's had the best defense and running game in the NFC since his career began.
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You're ****ing stupid.

Is it supposed to be a negative that a guy does a good job of extending the play?

In the next paragraph it states that his QB rating when he throws the ball quickly (in less than 2.5 seconds) is the highest in the league.
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And yet he's still TOP TEN IN YARDS PER COMPLETION EVERY YEAR.

Give it a rest. He and Alex are not similar.
The Browns, Skins and Titans were all top 7 in yards per completion.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...mpletion/2014/

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The Browns, Skins and Titans were all top 7 in yards per completion.
Irrelevant.

We're talking about two players. We're comparing them.

You want to know why one is successful and the other shitbird is 10-12 in his last 22 games?

Yards per completion has a lot to ****ing do with it.
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Just because he's "better" than those guys doesn't mean he's a Tier 2 player.
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That was in response to King's post claiming Wilson was the 10-12th best QB.

Even if you agree with his ranking, he's got to be top 10 at worst.
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" When Wilson does get rid of the ball quickly (2.5 seconds or less), he actually has the top QB rating in the league (113.2) and a gaudy 73.9% completion rate.

When he holds on to the ball 2.6 seconds or longer (54% of his dropbacks) his QB rating (75.7) plummets to 17th in the league."

Many hate Alex for this and say that it's just screen passes and short passes. The same should apply.

Hmm. You mean to tell me that his passer rating goes down when he faces pressure? That is a crazy concept. I can't wrap my head around it.
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Look at all the starters that are free agents in addition to Russell Wilson in 2016.

Bobby Wagner
Russell Okung
Brandon Mebane
Bruce Irvin
JR Sweezy
Alvin Bailey
Tony McDaniel
Jermaine Kearse

And that's with Michael Bennett demanding more money as well.

Somethings going to give. If/when they pay Russell Wilson more money than any NFL player, they are going to lose a ton of talent that helped them get there in the first place.
yup
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With that defense though, it's not unnecessary. It's the same argument people have here (OTWP for certain iirc) with Alex smith.
here's where the coaching comes in
if Carol hadn't called a pass and just ran the ****ing ball
they would be Superbowl champs

coaches all wanna be offensive geniuses and that means throwing the ball even if it's a stupid ****ing call

if you have a Marshawn Lynch or Jamal Charles you ****ing pound the rock
not try to make some game manager in to Joe Montana
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