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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





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Old 06-22-2015, 08:12 AM   #226
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:18 AM   #227
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So, the same group that bitch about giving up draft picks for a QB instead of drafting our own, are actually bitching about those who would not give up draft picks for a QB?

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Old 06-22-2015, 08:34 AM   #228
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If you had to choose which deal would you take?

Russell Wilson for 3 first round picks

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Andrew Luck for 3 first round picks?
I'd take Andrew Luck for 5 before I'd take Russel for 3
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:43 AM   #229
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I'd take Luck over Wilson as well but it's pretty close for me. I'm only taking Luck because of size, too.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:49 AM   #230
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I'd give em 2 firsts and Alex Smith for Russel Wilson RIGHT NOW.

I think we would have a fighters chance at going undefeated if we had him.

The speed in this WR core and backfield paired with Russels ability and confidence in the deep ball would seriously open up this offense.
Slow down there. I like Wilson but undefeated is pretty crazy talk.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:53 AM   #231
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I think we'd win 12-14 with Wilson and I have us at 9-12 with Alex. I'd have us at 11-13 with Luck.
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I think we'd win 12-14 with Wilson I'd have us at 11-13 with Luck.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:58 AM   #233
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Slow down there. I like Wilson but undefeated is pretty crazy talk.
Especially considering it wasn't even close to being done in Seattle.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:58 AM   #234
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I would only because the Chiefs suck at drafting for the most part.

If I was a fan of a team that could draft and retain talent well, then **** no.
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Historically, the first has never won a Super Bowl. Never. The highest any QB has taken as a percentage of the cap is 13%, Steve Young, back in the first year of free agency.

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% of Cap Spent on SB Winning QB

Year Name Cap %
1994 Young 13.1%
1995 Aikman 6.7%
1996 Favre 10.2%
1997 Elway 5.2%
1998 Elway 5.0%
1999 Warner 1.3%
2000 Dilfer 1.6%
2001 Brady 0.47%
2002 Johnson 9.6%
2003 Brady 4.4%
2004 Brady 6.3%
2005 Roethlisberger 4.9%
2006 P. Manning 10.4%
2007 E. Manning 9.2%
2008 Roethlisberger 6.8%
2009 Brees 8.3%
2011 E. Manning 11.7%
2012 Flacco 6.6%
2013 Wilson 0.56%
True, but salary structures have changed so dramatically for QBs that historical data doesn't mean much. Plus...there is some shady shit going on with Brady's contract. Lets be honest here. He isn't taking pay cuts out of the goodness of his heart. Dude has been made some serious handshake promises if you ask me.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:04 AM   #236
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True, but salary structures have changed so dramatically for QBs that historical data doesn't mean much. Plus...there is some shady shit going on with Brady's contract. Lets be honest here. He isn't taking pay cuts out of the goodness of his heart. Dude has been made some serious handshake promises if you ask me.

You've been listening to Hootie.

The real question is this -- would a guy who values winning above everything else, and has a wife who is worth 10x as much as he is anyway, be willing to take "only" $10 million, instead of $20 million, per year, in order to win more? The answer to that is -- sure, maybe.

It's not like he's making $100k. It's not like he hasn't banked like $100 million or whatever in his career. The dude obviously has more money than he can ever spend in his lifetime, or his kids, so what does he care about? More money, or winning?


EDIT: Sorry, not 10x. Only a little less than 3x. Brady's rough net worth is $120 million, while Gisele's is $320 million. So together, nearly half a billion. Why the crap would he care about banking an extra ten million per year instead of winning? It's not like he can't endorse another product if he wants to make bank. Not like he can't do whatever after his career is over and make bank...

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After losing the 2012 AFC Championship Game to the Ravens, Kraft told Brady on a shared flight to California that if he wanted get paid what he's worth in a year or two, it probably wasn't going to be tenable for the team. The Patriots did not want to pay 18 percent of their cap to a quarterback (they were at the time), even one as great as Brady. Kraft told Brady that he was basically going to have to play at half price, which he will be starting this year through the end of the contract in '17, to help the team give him the supporting cast to win championships and enhance his legacy. Brady thought about it, and agreed. The extension was announced in late Feb. 2013. Also keep in mind that, Brady has never had the most guaranteed money in his contracts, also to help the team out."
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You've been listening to Hootie.

The real question is this -- would a guy who values winning above everything else, and has a wife who is worth 10x as much as he is anyway, be willing to take "only" $10 million, instead of $20 million, per year, in order to win more? The answer to that is -- sure, maybe.

It's not like he's making $100k. It's not like he hasn't banked like $100 million or whatever in his career. The dude obviously has more money than he can ever spend in his lifetime, or his kids, so what does he care about? More money, or winning?
Gimme a break.

You really believe that?
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I'm not going to factor in Tom or Peyton since they are on their last legs, but after them, there is only really 1 tier of ELITE QB's we have left right now, and it is :

Rodgers
Luck
Wilson

Chiefs 1st round picks since 2000:

Sylvester Morris
TRENT GREEN
Ryan Sims
Larry Johnson
Junior Siavii (early 2nd)
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Glenn Dorsey
Branden Albert
Tyson Jackson
Eric Berry
Jonathan Baldwin
Dontari Poe
Eric Fisher
Dee Ford
Marcus Peters

You wanna try and tell me you'd take any 2 of those guys over Russell Wilson? 3? 4?
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Gimme a break.

You really believe that?

Tim Duncan got some kind of side deal too?

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