Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18

[Discuss Thrower]

Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues

— DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015

Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

Pole cumming.

[RunKC]

Tom Brady is a better QB than Peyton Manning because he doesn't constantly choke and throw terrible INT's on a consistent basis.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I can't wait for 2016 when Russell gets the biggest QB contract ever, the Seahawks lose key talent bc of that and Wilson is going to be forced to out score teams on a consistent basis like Luck has his entire career.

And then all will see why this argument was ever made between him and Luck.

I can't wait for 2017 after Smith flames out and KC gives a second round pick to San Fran for Kaepernick.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Tom Brady is a better QB than Peyton Manning because he doesn't constantly choke and throw terrible INT's on a consistent basis.

By that statement, Russell Wilson is better than Andy luck.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Tom Brady is a better QB than Peyton Manning because he doesn't constantly choke and throw terrible INT's on a consistent basis.

oh so now you're admitting you are a hypocrite

just making sure

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

By that statement, Russell Wilson is better than Andy luck.

Russell Wilson threw 4 INT's in the NFCCG. And his defense only gave up 3 points from all 4 turnovers to the best QB on the highest scoring offense in the NFL.

Russell Wilson doesn't have consequences when he makes mistakes.

How many other QB's in the NFL can say that?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Russell Wilson threw 4 INT's in the NFCCG. And his defense only gave up 3 points from all 4 turnovers to the best QB on the highest scoring offense in the NFL.

Russell Wilson doesn't have consequences when he makes mistakes.

How many other QB's in the NFL can say that?

So 1 game is a consistent basis?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I can't wait for 2017 after Smith flames out and KC gives a second round pick to San Fran for Kaepernick.

because you're a Raiders fan?

[Hootie]

Man, RunKC, that 1 game sample size of Wilson throwing interceptions is huge. Conveniently, you left out the fact he led his team to 3 TD drives in 4:17 to advance his team to the Super Bowl. But that's ok! We get it.

Amazingly, Aaron Rodgers, everyone's FAVORITE QB, gets a pass ... because Seattle's defense IS SO GOOD, no one can beat it. Oh, I mean, other than Tom Brady.

But I guess the fact that Russell Wilson single-handedly kept the Hawks in the driver's seat in the Super Bowl while the Hawks defense let Brady go ballistic on them in the 4th quarter doesn't get mentioned because, well, it doesn't fit the narrative!

But yes. Let's talk about that 4 interception game. However, let's ignore Andrew Luck and his 12-33 and getting taken out of the game in the 3rd quarter. Because, you know, apparently the Colts just aren't good enough and Andy has it too tough !

[Hootie]

if Andrew Luck was SO GOOD, he would have at least kept Indy in the game against New England. Because anyone who watched the Super Bowl and thought, "damn, this Seattle defense is legendary!" ... is kind of off their rocker.

Seattle's OFFENSE was the only reason they were in that game. Remember, it was 14-7 with 31 seconds remaining in the 2nd quarter. I guess Russell had nothing to do with that CLUTCH 5 play, 80 yard TD drive in 0:29 SECONDS.

Just

So funny to me.

[Hootie]

New England / Seattle play on a neutral field 10 times and NE wins 8 of them. No doubt. Russell getting that game to 14-14 at half was HUGE, and totally changed the game. Then, before you knew it, he had two more great drives and it was 24-14.

the play of the game was Butler tripping Lockette with 7:55 remaining in the 4th on 1st down. That play was going to be a HUGE gain (and maybe even a TD with 1 move after the catch). The DB fell down, grabbed at Lockette's foot, and Lockette fell down and no penalty was called and then Seattle punted two plays later. That allowed Brady to get those two TD drives.

but no one will ever remember that (other than me)

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

New England / Seattle play on a neutral field 10 times and NE wins 8 of them. No doubt. Russell getting that game to 14-14 at half was HUGE, and totally changed the game. Then, before you knew it, he had two more great drives and it was 24-14.

the play of the game was Butler tripping Lockette with 7:55 remaining in the 4th on 1st down. That play was going to be a HUGE gain (and maybe even a TD with 1 move after the catch). The DB fell down, grabbed at Lockette's foot, and Lockette fell down and no penalty was called and then Seattle punted two plays later. That allowed Brady to get those two TD drives.

but no one will ever remember that (other than me)

I think it would be the other way around it 8 of 10.

Remember, the Seahawks defensive backfield was pretty decimated from injuries by the superbowl. That's something they kind of rely in

[Hootie]

Pete Carroll’s 2014 Seahawks had the largest negative disparity in penalties in decades, and it continued in the Super Bowl, as officials missed a handful of obvious calls against the Patriots. The most glaring was Malcolm Butler’s tripping of Ricardo Lockette in the fourth quarter, which would have set up the Seahawks at their 40 (Lockette would have gained a lot more than that if he had been allowed to catch the ball).

Malcom Butler should be public enemy #1 to Seahawks fans. He literally saved that game. Twice.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

So 1 game is a consistent basis?

There's several examples of Russell Wilson playing very poorly and not having consequences.

NYG-0 TD's/2 INT's, below 60% comp. Ran for 1 TD and yet his team won 38-17.
STL-0 TD's/1 INT. QBR of 29. And his team still won 20-6.
HOU-0 TD's/1 INT, 52% comp, 20.6 QBR and his team still won 23-20.
OAK-0 TD's/0 INT's, 5.11 avg, 42 QBR and his team still won 30-24.
NO in the playoffs-50% comp, 25 QBR, 5.72 avg and his team still won 23-15.

Russell has the rare advantage of being on a completed stacked team, especially with that defense to cover for him when he plays poorly.

95% of teams don't have the luxury to have that kind of a defense.

Some teams (San Diego, Indianapolis and Green Bay) rely on their QB so much that most of the time if the QB can't play a great game, they will lose. Why? Because they don't have anywhere near the talent that the Seahawks do.

[Hootie]

he catches that ball and makes one cut and he might be gone to the left ... worst case scenario, they tackle him in bounds around the NE 40 ... in a 24-21 game ... with the clock running around 7 minutes and Seattle back in scoring territory

[Hootie]

I can go to any QB and cherry pick 5 regular season games where they didn't play well. Peyton, Tom, Aaron ... anyone.

Wow, what an insane cherry pick