Chiefs Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18 - Page 42

Discuss Thrower · 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM

Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues
— DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015

Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

Pole cumming.

Mother****erJones · 06-23-2015, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Guys!

The only way to win in the NFL is to have a franchise QB!

/ChiefsPlanet the past 10 years

...unless you're Seattle

Seattle carries Wilson/ CP

RunKC · 06-23-2015, 01:24 PM

So we're back to bitching about the Chiefs not drafting a QB for 30 years and blaming it on a regime that's entering their 3rd year.

Full circle

Hootie · 06-23-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

I kind of like how you give Russell full credit for getting the game to 14-14 at halftime based on very aggressive playcalling, but then lay all blame on Carroll and the offensive coordinator (whoever he is, is that Quinn?) for the bad playcall at the end, and in so doing completely exonerate Russell for throwing the actual ball right to the Patriots player.

I haven't said that Wilson made a horrible play there, because it's a pretty tough one either way, but you CANNOT credit Wilson for the tie at the end of the first half, and then exonerate him for the pick at the end.

The same aggressive play-calling is what resulted in both plays, the good at the end of the first half and the bad at the end of the game.

I absolutely can ...

Seattle had a timeout ... there was absolutely NO GOD DAMN REASON to throw the ball there. Not EVER. You have THREE downs to gain 1 YARD. You can run the read option on 3rd down.

There is 2 PLAYCALLS you can make on 2nd down. And both of them involve a heavy set ... you either hand the ball to Lynch and hope he scores, or you run the play-action from the 1 any other team runs in these situations that usually results in a TE wide open for a TD

YOU NEVER SPREAD OUT THE OFFENSE AND DESIGN A SCREEN PASS TO BE THROWN TO A WR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD WHERE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS

I mean, come the **** on.

**Saul Good** · 06-23-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

but let's assume we're talking about 2 HOF 1st rounders ...

would you really not trade Tony Gonzalez and Derrick Thomas for Russell Wilson? I'm sorry, but I would. I'm sure you would, too.

I'm not sure on that one...pretty much a coin flip.

Our best 5 year stretch of 1st round picks since 1990 would have to be:

Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Dwayne Bowe
Glenn Dorsey\Branden Albert
Tyson Jackson

That's six players. The most recent 4 of them are no longer Chiefs, and the other 2 are getting close to retiring without ever winning a playoff game.

Hootie · 06-23-2015, 01:28 PM

I'm sorry, I just cannot fault the QB for making the right read on a TERRIBLE ****ing playcall that called for him to throw the ball into the middle of the ****ing field on the 1 yard line on 2nd down in a Super Bowl when you have Marshawn Lynch. If no one was on the field, Lockette catches that pass in stride 1000 times out of 1000 ... so even if you want to fault ball placement, which I find ridiculous, I still place ZERO blame on Russell Wilson.

Hootie · 06-23-2015, 01:30 PM

I mean, seriously, given the context ... that is literally the worst play call in the history of the NFL. It really is. It was SO bad.

Hootie · 06-23-2015, 01:33 PM

if Pats fans ever forget the name Malcom Butler, they are idiots ... between that defensive play to save the Super Bowl and the DPI he got away with when he fell down and tripped a wide open Lockette ... dude literally won a Super Bowl for them ... and no, I'm not forgetting about the "Tom Brady legacy game" that Tom Brady put on in the 4th quarter, either

**Saul Good** · 06-23-2015, 01:35 PM

Russell Wilson would immediately be the best QB in Chiefs history. Think about that for a minute and then tell me he isn't worth 2 stupid draft picks.

Saccopoo · 06-23-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Colts will be in the AFC Championship game again this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they made the Superbowl.

They lose that game to the Chiefs, so, no, they won't be in the Superbowl.

O.city · 06-23-2015, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

We've had plenty of teams that were stacked other than at QB. We have 0 playoff wins to show for it. Wilson has 6.

The Chiefs have 8 postseason wins, 2 conference championships, and 1 Superbowl championship in our history (going back to the merger 49 years ago).

Russell Wilson has 6 postseason wins, 2 conference championships, and 1 Superbowl win in his 3 year career.

Meh, he's won playoff games with 13. Whatever qbr and lost games going ham. It's just not something that can be used for individual play.

A qb can win a game playing like shit and lose one playing great. Too many factors in play there.

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

They lose that game to the Chiefs, so, no, they won't be in the Superbowl.

So this is your prediction? Chiefs in the Super Bowl?

Tell me, do we win? And who is MVP?

O.city · 06-23-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I absolutely can ...

Seattle had a timeout ... there was absolutely NO GOD DAMN REASON to throw the ball there. Not EVER. You have THREE downs to gain 1 YARD. You can run the read option on 3rd down.

There is 2 PLAYCALLS you can make on 2nd down. And both of them involve a heavy set ... you either hand the ball to Lynch and hope he scores, or you run the play-action from the 1 any other team runs in these situations that usually results in a TE wide open for a TD

YOU NEVER SPREAD OUT THE OFFENSE AND DESIGN A SCREEN PASS TO BE THROWN TO A WR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD WHERE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS

I mean, come the **** on.

Meh, look at your own screen shot. He's wide open with no one around him.

Great play by the defender.

Moving on

Hootie · 06-23-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Meh, look at your own screen shot. He's wide open with no one around him.

Great play by the defender.

Moving on

Legendary play

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-23-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

So we're back to bitching about the Chiefs not drafting a QB for 30 years and blaming it on a regime that's entering their 3rd year.

Full circle

I do love a good QB discussion, but around here it always devolves into AS sucks, or the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in decades or this fanbase is stupid and doesn't deserve 'John Doe' at QB.

For once, I'd love to see an actual football discussion remain a football discussion.

And it's always the same jackasses ****ing shit up.

Hammock Parties · 06-23-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I do love a good QB discussion, but around here it always devolves into AS sucks, or the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in decades or this fanbase is stupid and doesn't deserve 'John Doe' at QB.

For once, I'd love to see an actual football discussion remain a football discussion.

And it's always the same jackasses ****ing shit up.

Dude, the SECOND POST has Alex Smith in it.

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06-21-2015, 11:57 AM
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-230000	Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18 Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues — DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015 Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson? Pole cumming.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1490389	So we're back to bitching about the Chiefs not drafting a QB for 30 years and blaming it on a regime that's entering their 3rd year. Full circle __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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06-23-2015, 01:28 PM	#620
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm sorry, I just cannot fault the QB for making the right read on a TERRIBLE **ing playcall that called for him to throw the ball into the middle of the **ing field on the 1 yard line on 2nd down in a Super Bowl when you have Marshawn Lynch. If no one was on the field, Lockette catches that pass in stride 1000 times out of 1000 ... so even if you want to fault ball placement, which I find ridiculous, I still place ZERO blame on Russell Wilson.
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06-23-2015, 01:30 PM	#621
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I mean, seriously, given the context ... that is literally the worst play call in the history of the NFL. It really is. It was SO bad.
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06-23-2015, 01:33 PM	#622
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	if Pats fans ever forget the name Malcom Butler, they are idiots ... between that defensive play to save the Super Bowl and the DPI he got away with when he fell down and tripped a wide open Lockette ... dude literally won a Super Bowl for them ... and no, I'm not forgetting about the "Tom Brady legacy game" that Tom Brady put on in the 4th quarter, either
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06-23-2015, 01:35 PM	#623
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Russell Wilson would immediately be the best QB in Chiefs history. Think about that for a minute and then tell me he isn't worth 2 stupid draft picks. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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