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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

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Old 06-24-2015, 10:22 PM   #841
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Come on, Dude. Running back? Secondary? Defensive line?

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Charles is getting old and has taken a lot of hits. Couldn't take many carries last year. Never know what might happen.

We got a rookie, a suspended guy and some guys who don't have a lot of skins on the wall in the secondary.

D-line? I mean Poe is good but other than that it's...roleplayers.

Milkman was actually talking about the offensive line though...and it's very, very shaky. We have no idea if Stephenson, Allen, Kush or Fisher will ever even be NFL average players.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:23 PM   #842
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Charles is getting old and has taken a lot of hits. Couldn't take many carries last year. Never know what might happen.

We got a rookie, a suspended guy and some guys who don't have a lot of skins on the wall in the secondary.

D-line? I mean Poe is good but other than that it's...roleplayers.

Milkman is right.
In what bizarro world am I living in when Milk and you agree?

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Old 06-24-2015, 10:25 PM   #843
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In what bizarro world am I living in when Milk and you agree?

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Milk and I agree on a lot of Chiefs things.

It's best to turn a skeptical eye towards this franchise.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:58 PM   #844
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The blatant stupidity masking as skepticism in this thread is ridiculous.
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Old 06-24-2015, 11:24 PM   #845
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Some douche posted this on Facebook. I don't really care to fact check, but a lot of these are independent of the defense. Some impressive accolades and accomplishments here.

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- Wilson is the first QB in NFL history with a passer rating of over 95.0 in each of his first three seasons.
- Wilson has 24 games with a passer rating of 100+ in his first three seasons...more than any other QB in NFL history. Flacco, Marino, and Palmer are tied for second with 19.
- Wilson leads all QB’s in the NFL over the last 3 years with 10- 4th quarter comebacks and 15- game-winning drives. No other QB in NFL history has ever done this in their first 3 years.
- He is one of only five players with at least 20 touchdown passes in each of first three seasons.
- Wilson is the first and only QB in the Super Bowl era to have average yards per attempt of 7.6 or better in each of his first three seasons.
- Wilson’s career yards per passing attempt of 7.9 is fourth-best of all QB’s since 1951.
- Wilson is ranked #1 in career postseason yards per attempt. His career average of 9.01 (min. 200 pass attempts) is the highest in NFL history.
- Wilson is the only QB in NFL history to appear in two SB's in his first three seasons.
- Wilson holds the record for most passing yards in a playoff game by a rookie QB with 385 yards. The old record was set in 1937 by Sammy Baugh with 335 yards...that record stood for 75 years.
- Wilson is ranked at #2 in all-time career passer rating (min. 1200 attempts) with a 98.6. Only Aaron Rodgers has a higher career passer rating.
- Wilson's passer rating of 98.6 for a player’s first 3 years is the best in NFL history.
- Including postseason, Wilson's passer rating of 98.5 for a player's first three years is the best in NFL history.
- Wilson's postseason passer rating of 97.8 in his first three years is the best in NFL history.
- Wilson’s career postseason passer rating of 97.8 (min. 200 attempts) is the 5th best in NFL history.
- Wilson's TD% of 5.8% in his first three years is the 2nd highest in NFL history; only Dan Marino is higher with 6.9%.
- Wilson's INT% of 2.1% in his first three years is the lowest of any QB in NFL history.
- Wilson is ranked #2 all-time with a career TD to INT ratio of 2.77 (min. 1200 attempts) behind only Rodgers.
- Wilson is ranked #3 all-time with a career INT rate of only 2.1%, behind only Rodgers and Brady.
- Wilson is the first and only QB in NFL history to throw for 300+ yards and run for 100+ yards (313 & 106) in the same game...against the Rams on 10-19-14.
- Only one QB in NFL history had more than one season with more than 20 TD passes and 10 or fewer interceptions in his first three seasons: Wilson, who has had three such seasons.
- His 72 touchdowns are the seventh-most ever through a player’s first three seasons.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has 84 passing TD's in his first three seasons, 4th-most in NFL history.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has 97 passing and rushing TD's in his first three seasons, 3rd-most in NFL history.
- Wilson is ranked #12 all-time for most passing yards by a QB in his first three years with 9950 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson is ranked #5 all-time for passing yards by a QB in his first three years with 11770 yards.
- Wilson is ranked #5 all-time for most total yards (passing + rushing) by a QB in his first three years with 11827 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson is ranked #2 all-time for most total yards (passing and rushing) by a QB in his first three years with 13902 yards.
- Wilson has the 2nd highest career yards per attempt in SB history with 9.85 yards, behind only Terry Bradshaw.
- Wilson has the 3rd highest career passer rating in SB history with a 117.39, behind only Joe Montana and Jim Plunkett.
- Wilson has the 6th highest career completion % in SB history with 65.22%.
- Wilson has the 4th highest yards per attempt in a SB game with 11.76 yards in SB49.
- Wilson's 1,877 rushing yards is second-most by a QB in the modern era through three seasons behind Cam Newton's 2,032 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has the most rushing yards for a QB in NFL history in his first three seasons with 2132 yards.
- Wilson led all NFL rushers in 2014 with an average of 7.2 yards per carry.
- Wilson has a record of having had a lead at some point in 56 straight games since 2012...the old record was 45 games...Also, in those 56 games, Wilson has never lost an NFL game by more than 9 points.
- Wilson has won 36 games in his first 3 seasons; three more than any other QB in NFL history.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has won 42 games in his first three seasons; 6 more than any other QB in NFL history.
I bolded the ones that I found most impressive.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:11 AM   #847
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:38 AM   #848
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Some douche posted this on Facebook. I don't really care to fact check, but a lot of these are independent of the defense. Some impressive accolades and accomplishments here.



I bolded the ones that I found most impressive.

Actually, this makes him out to be even better than I thought. I hadn't realized some of those stats were teh case. Very impressive.
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Charles is getting old and has taken a lot of hits. Couldn't take many carries last year. Never know what might happen.

We got a rookie, a suspended guy and some guys who don't have a lot of skins on the wall in the secondary.

D-line? I mean Poe is good but other than that it's...roleplayers.

Milkman was actually talking about the offensive line though...and it's very, very shaky. We have no idea if Stephenson, Allen, Kush or Fisher will ever even be NFL average players.
You could say this about a lot of teams around the league.
Patriots don't have much of anything in the secondary anymore. Seattle's OL has 2 new starters and a LT who is always hurt along with a bunch of role playing WR's and no stars. Broncos have no OL and rookies starting there and no consistency on the DL with pot roast gone.

Etc, etc
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Actually, this makes him out to be even better than I thought. I hadn't realized some of those stats were teh case. Very impressive.
Alex Smith would have held all those records if the 49ers had better coaching.
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You could say this about a lot of teams around the league.
Patriots don't have much of anything in the secondary anymore. Seattle's OL has 2 new starters and a LT who is always hurt along with a bunch of role playing WR's and no stars. Broncos have no OL and rookies starting there and no consistency on the DL with pot roast gone.

Etc, etc
What do those teams have to overcome those potential problems?

Hmmmm...
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Actually, this makes him out to be even better than I thought. I hadn't realized some of those stats were teh case. Very impressive.
Not only that, but he is cut from the finest cloth on Earth. Read some stories about his family and his upbringing. You give this man money and you don't have to worry about losing his work ethic. He's a sure thing.
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Not only that, but he is cut from the finest cloth on Earth. Read some stories about his family and his upbringing. You give this man money and you don't have to worry about losing his work ethic. He's a sure thing.
No one would argue this, I don't think.

That said, my money is on Luck.
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You can say those are defensive independent statistics but they're not. You can't win without a good defense
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