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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

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Old 06-28-2015, 01:50 PM   #1216
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No, you are wrong. As I already pointed out with Rivers, Roethlisberger and Rodgers. None of those guys got drafted to bad football teams.
NONE of those teams publicly stated that they were considering allowing any of those QB's walk after their first contract.
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:51 PM   #1217
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That's bullshit.

ONE FULL PERCENTAGE POINT ISN'T FAVORABLE, Jackass.
Yes it is. Next thing you're going to tell me is that there's no difference between a QB who averages 8 YPA vs 7 YPA.
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:51 PM   #1218
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NONE of those teams publicly stated that they were considering allowing any of those QB's walk after their first contract.
Irrelevant. They were all re-signed, Wilson will be, and the Chiefs will suck.

Nothing changes.
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:59 PM   #1219
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In 2009, the Seahawks finsihed 25th in points scored and 21st overall.

In 2010, they added Marshawn Lynch to that offense and finished 23rd and 28th.
In 2011, they again finished 23rd and 28th.

In 2012, they drafted Russel Wilson, and the offense finished 9th and 17th.
2013, 8th and 17th.
2014, 9th and 10th.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:01 PM   #1220
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In 2009, the Seahawks finsihed 25th in points scored and 21st overall.

In 2010, they added Marshawn Lynch to that offense and finished 23rd and 28th.
In 2011, they again finished 23rd and 28th.

In 2012, they drafted Russel Wilson, and the offense finished 9th and 17th.
2013, 8th and 17th.
2014, 9th and 10th.
Yeah, there's a big difference between Tarvaris Jackson and Russell Wilson.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:01 PM   #1221
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Irrelevant. They were all re-signed, Wilson will be, and the Chiefs will suck.

Nothing changes.


Thanks for confirming that you're just trolling, as usual.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:01 PM   #1222
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You've said it before, and you can say it again and again.
You can scream it from rooftops for all I ****ing care.

It's a worthless opinion.

My worthless opinion is that there are only a couple of QBs that would be accomplishing what Wilson has accomplished.
The facts say otherwise.

How many average QB's have we seen in a SB this century with a loaded team?

Dilfer in 2000.
Brady's first season starting in 2001.
Big Ben's second year starting in 2005.
Grossman in 2006.

Hell Alex was in OT of the 2011 NFCCG with a loaded team (not as talented as Seattle but close) and people think he's an average QB.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:02 PM   #1223
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Seattle was three years into their rebuilding process when Wilson was drafted.

Atlanta was in their first season.
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Pete Carroll and John Schneider were hired in 2010 and began the rebuilding process. They won the division and beat the defending Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints in the Divisional Playoff Round.

They continued to turn over their roster and draft high quality players. By the time Wilson was drafted in 2012, they had a very good football team, three years in the making.
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Dane is right. All they needed was a good quarterback. They were already trending up on defense (went from 25th to 7th) and already had the running game. All they needed was a QB that wasn't Tavaris Jackson. Wilson gave them that.
They had an ascending defense. That's only one part of what makes a team as Chiefs fans should know all too well.

Rushing offense: 2010: 31st, 1424 yards, 3.7 YPC, 2011: 21st, 1756 yards, 4.0 YPC... (Wilson gets drafted)... 2012: 3rd, 2579 yards, 4.8 YPC, 2013: 4th, 2188 yards, 4.3 YPC, 2014: 1st, 2762 yards, 5.3 YPC.

TOTAL COINCIDENCE.

Offensive production: 2010: 28th, 19.4 PPG, 297 YPG, 4.9 yards per play, 2011: 28th, 20.1 PPG, 303 YPG, 4.8 yards per play... (Wilson gets drafted)... 2012: 17th, 25.8 PPG, 350 YPG, 5.8 yards per play, 2013: 18th, 26.1 PPG, 5.6 yards per play, 2014: 9th, 24.6 PPG, 375 YPG, 5.9 yards per play.

TOTAL COINCIDENCE.
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In 2009, the Seahawks finsihed 25th in points scored and 21st overall.

In 2010, they added Marshawn Lynch to that offense and finished 23rd and 28th.
In 2011, they again finished 23rd and 28th.

In 2012, they drafted Russel Wilson, and the offense finished 9th and 17th.
2013, 8th and 17th.
2014, 9th and 10th.
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They had an ascending defense. That's only one part of what makes a team as Chiefs fans should know all too well.

Rushing offense: 2010: 31st, 1424 yards, 3.7 YPC, 2011: 21st, 1756 yards, 4.0 YPC... (Wilson gets drafted)... 2012: 3rd, 2579 yards, 4.8 YPC, 2013: 4th, 2188 yards, 4.3 YPC, 2014: 1st, 2762 yards, 5.3 YPC.

TOTAL COINCIDENCE.

Offensive production: 2010: 28th, 19.4 PPG, 297 YPG, 4.9 yards per play, 2011: 28th, 20.1 PPG, 303 YPG, 4.8 yards per play... (Wilson gets drafted)... 2012: 17th, 25.8 PPG, 350 YPG, 5.8 yards per play, 2013: 18th, 26.1 PPG, 5.6 yards per play, 2014: 9th, 375 YPG, 5.9 yards per play.

TOTAL COINCIDENCE.
Whoa. It's almost like if you draft a quarterback that can also run to replace your shitty quarterback, the offense improves.


WHOAAAAA! This is breaking news type shit right here. I mean, what are you going to tell me? That the Chiefs offense also improved after they got Alex Smith to replace the shitty quarterbacks we had? No way!
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HIs last playoff game was better statistically than anything Wilson has ever done.

I can pull meaningless stats out of nowhere as well. You do that a lot. One stat gets shot down, move to another.
He's a ****ing turd that's been manipulating stats for years now.

And for the record, I couldn't give a rat's ass whether or not Wilson's TD Percentage was one full percentage point behind Marino's because he three 26 less TD's during that period.

26 touchdowns less.

Wilson's TD Percentage also dropped to 4% in 2014, when he had more attempts and more yardage than in previous seasons. So by all accounts, Wilson becomes less effective the more he's been asked to throw the ball.

Marino.
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Virus, run all that PPG ypg etc for the chiefs the last two years. I'm loo lazy but curious to see what it is
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Im confused at what the point of these stats are. Yes, the Seahawks as an offense and a team improved when they replaced Tarvaris Jackson with Russell Wilson.


Was anybody disputing that?
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