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Old 07-15-2015, 09:59 AM  
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:02 AM   #391
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Trade for kendricks?

Maybe a WR?
Maybe getting a new deal for Howard and/or Sean Smith....my preference is obviously to move a third to Philly for Kendrick's.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:14 AM   #392
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Justin Houston's 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2020 salary cap numbers are $5.1M, $19.1M, $20.6M, $19.1M, $19.6M & $17.5M.
I am a little surprised by that structure. But, I guess we can roll over cap from this year to next if necessary.

And I don't know why people keep saying this is a three year deal. Once you get by the third year, the cap hit actually goes DOWN. Seems like a six year deal that is likely to play all the way out to me.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:21 AM   #393
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Maybe getting a new deal for Howard and/or Sean Smith....my preference is obviously to move a third to Philly for Kendrick's.
Smith is making quite a bit this year ( 7+ million if I remember correctly). I would expect any new contract for him to REDUCE the cap hit this year.

Makes more sense to give a player like Howard or DeVito an extension/raise. But honestly, most of the players that are entering UFA are playing this year on a 'prove-it' type of situation.

Sign Stephenson to an extension? Why would we and why would he?
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:26 AM   #394
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I am a little surprised by that structure. But, I guess we can roll over cap from this year to next if necessary.

And I don't know why people keep saying this is a three year deal. Once you get by the third year, the cap hit actually goes DOWN. Seems like a six year deal that is likely to play all the way out to me.
After 3 years the guaranteed money runs out and he'll be 30 (iirc). Could approach a restructure I suppose
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:27 AM   #395
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Dj and Tamba won't cost much if they wanna stay next year.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:36 AM   #396
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I would have preferred a backload. But the benefit is exactly as you say. Get the contract off the books quickly so you have leverage in the later years of the contract. If his contract ever becomes inflexible you can convert his base salary to bonus so any one of those years of 20m could easily be reduced to 10.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:50 AM   #397
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And for anyone thinking we will keep Sean Smith next season..

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Chiefs have $8.63M of salary cap room after Justin Houston's deal. There should be right around $27.5M of '16 cap space (assumes $150M cap).

Writing is on the wall. We will pay him just under $12 million if we franchise him.

I think we will be more proactive and keep that money for DJ, Howard, Abdullah, Tamba if he's still productive and hopefully one of Allen/Stephenson if they play well this year.
Dumping Smith for those players is not a wise move and I think Smith is overrated. But maybe if Peters blooms...
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:51 AM   #398
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Dj and Tamba won't cost much if they wanna stay next year.
I agree, and I don't think Abdullah will either, especially at his age.

I'd like to see us keep Jaye Howard. He was the most underrated player on the team last year IMO.

DeVito is surely gone though. And I think Colquitt will need to restructure. No justifying paying a punter $4.45 million.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:53 AM   #399
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The entire "Hunts are cheap" rhetoric needs to be put to bed. They may not be as aggressive bringing in FAs as the fans would like, but I don't think money is what drives that.

Fact is, the Chiefs don't let their stars get away.
The latest argument I heard here about Hunt cheapness being the source of all our ills is that Clark is keeping the team from drafting a first round QB because he doesn't want to pay what it would cost for a contract extension if said QB was deserving of one.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:15 AM   #401
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Chiefs have $8.63M of salary cap room after Justin Houston's deal. There should be right around $27.5M of '16 cap space (assumes $150M cap).

Either roll it over or sign someone else?
28 million in cap space is very nice with the large deals they've given JC, Alex, Maclin and Houston.

They'll roll some over but I really think they'll make a play for Mathis.
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yah, this Broncos team is better than that Broncos team so you can curse, cuss and live in the fairy land of kc denial but it still doesn't change the fact that the Broncos are the Broncos and the chiefs are well... because chiefs.
As much as I ****ing hate Denver, yall own us. Pure and simple. These fans are in denial and have trash talked PM for 3 years and he's been our daddy since he's entered the league.
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28 million in cap space is very nice with the large deals they've given JC, Alex, Maclin and Houston.

They'll roll some over but I really think they'll make a play for Mathis.
Intel? Because Reid has denied interest in Mathis. Things can change certainly in an instant for sure though.
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Dj and Tamba won't cost much if they wanna stay next year.
I agree. This defense is close knit. They want to stay together and I believe they will for another year beyond this season.
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