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Old 07-16-2015, 08:58 AM  
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What do the Chiefs do w/ the extra cap space?
The Chiefs supposedly gain about $4-5M in cap space w/ the Justin Houston contract extension.

What do the Chiefs do w/ that extra cap allowance?
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:15 PM   #61
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I think he'll be back at a reduced price. If he comes back. But I don't he comes back
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:20 PM   #62
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:31 PM   #63
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Berry made out like a bandit...he only really played 3 1/2 years and banked $60 million. A safety should never be the 2nd highest payed player on your team.

If he returns in 2016...I seriously doubt it will be for KC.
Who then? Not playing for 2 years having a serious illness and an injury wouldn't draw much interest i wouldn't think.
Maybe he will have a sense of loyalty to a team that treated him first class. (Like they should have)
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:46 PM   #64
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:50 PM   #65
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Yeah, speaking from a purely objective perspective, it would be tough to say that the Berry pick yielded positive returns for the Chiefs.

That high in the draft and for the kind of money spent during a down period in the Chiefs competitive cycle, it just hasn't been a great return. Now a fairly significant part of that isn't necessarily his fault (out of whack rookie contracts, the knee, the Chiefs being largely terrible....cancer), but fault isn't the issue here.

Sum total, paying $60 million for 3 1/2 seasons of SS play (in 5 years) on a .500 football team is probably not a great allocation of resources. I was so amped about the pick and thought the guy was going to be the lynchpin of a turnaround but I think ultimately the returns on the pick have to be considered pretty unimpressive.
Exactly all of this. IMO, he's great in run support, but a liability against the pass. Maybe he was good in the 2013 season, but I'm not so sure. Abdullah seems to do the job very well.

Some want him covering deep, but I really like Ron Parker back there.
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The chiefs in 2013 were either the best or second best at covering the te. Alot of thag had to be berry.

I don't remember who brought that up
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:57 PM   #67
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Exactly all of this. IMO, he's great in run support, but a liability against the pass. Maybe he was good in the 2013 season, but I'm not so sure. Abdullah seems to do the job very well.

Some want him covering deep, but I really like Ron Parker back there.
Liability against the pass? Thats ****ing bullshit. Berry's main problem is that he got put at SS when he was drafted instead of FS like we should have in the beginning.
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Old 07-16-2015, 06:23 PM   #68
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You guy have turned into total MORONS. All of the sudden Berry sucks, GEEZ !
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Old 07-16-2015, 07:35 PM   #69
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You guy have turned into total MORONS. All of the sudden Berry sucks, GEEZ !
I've thought he's overhyped and overpaid for a few years now.

I'd give DJ, Hali and Houston as much credit as anyone for our success against the TE. They all do a good job in coverage.

Can't say this team missed Berry too much.
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You guy have turned into total MORONS. All of the sudden Berry sucks, GEEZ !
I dont think anyone said he sucks...he doesn't. He's a good football player. He's just not the transcendent/once-in-a-generation type player KC thought they were getting. He sure looked great his rookie year...but after he really didn't make the type of game altering plays you expect from the highest paid safety in NFL history. He was supposed to be the next Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu.

I was thinking about the most over-rated player on the roster and couldn't really come up with one. Berry is probably it..considering how much he was paid...and the hype vs. production.
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Liability against the pass? Thats ****ing bullshit. Berry's main problem is that he got put at SS when he was drafted instead of FS like we should have in the beginning.
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Berry needs to be deep and be the ball hawk I thought he was drafted to be. I thought we'd have him in the box occasionally. He was tabbed as "an Ed Reed type" but he's been put in the box seemingly all the time.
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Berry needs to be deep and be the ball hawk I thought he was drafted to be. I thought we'd have him in the box occasionally. He was tabbed as "an Ed Reed type" but he's been put in the box seemingly all the time.
The question is why Sutton chose to use him in a SS/Jack-of-all-trades role? When Houston went down, KC's defense took a serious hit....same with DJ and the run defense. When Berry left...they actually seemed to play better. So maybe it is a schematic aberration...but losing him didnt have much impact....and it should have considering he is a 11.5 million dollar/franchise type player.
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