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View Poll Results: How do you financially compare to your parents when they were your current age?
**** I'm under 25 years old, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 1 0.63%
Doing better financially 1 0.63%
About the same 1 0.63%
Not doing as good financially 4 2.50%
**** I'm 25 to 34 years old, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 1 0.63%
Doing better financially 32 20.00%
About the same 8 5.00%
Not doing as good financially 10 6.25%
**** I'm 35 to 44 years old, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 0 0%
Doing better financially 34 21.25%
About the same 7 4.38%
Not doing as good financially 8 5.00%
**** I'm 45 to 54 years old, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 1 0.63%
Doing better financially 25 15.63%
About the same 8 5.00%
Not doing as good financially 8 5.00%
**** I'm 55 to 64 years old, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 0 0%
Doing better financially 6 3.75%
About the same 1 0.63%
Not doing as good financially 1 0.63%
**** I'm 65 years old or older, and compared to my parents at this age I'm ... 0 0%
Doing better financially 0 0%
About the same 0 0%
Not doing as good financially 1 0.63%
My finances are too secret for an anonymous poll with an anonymous name on an anonymous message board. 0 0%
I'm Justin Houston. What do you think my answer is? 2 1.25%
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Old 07-19-2015, 08:06 AM   #9
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For many, perhaps most, you're right. A 4 year degree is probably the way to go. But like I said, it's not the only way to go and I feel like the educational system stigmatizes anyone that doesn't choose to go that route.

And remember, I just said there are diminishing returns - not no returns.

It's just so hard to wealth-build at all in your 20s if you're lugging around 50K plus in student loan debt and you're dealing with a non-specialized degree that gives you an entry level position of around $30-40K. You can't really even think about home ownership at that point so you're not building equity. Your interest rates are generally in the 5-8% range on student loan debt so it's either a higher monthly payment or a pretty long term. It's just a nasty thing to have hanging around your neck and makes even the march to middle class substantially more difficult.

I'm not saying that college shouldn't be encouraged. I am saying, however, that for many people it shouldn't be the only consideration and to my eyes, that's the only route that guidance counselors and other secondary ed employees will push you towards. And heaven help you if you're a parent that encourages a child that doesn't choose that path.

For your son, Astrophysics may be the proper dream. For others, it could be wanting to open your own shop or even work outdoors. It may be photography. It may be any number of things that your degree doesn't do anything to get you in the door for but perhaps a low-wage apprenticeship would. Those kids are going to be steered away from that and end up in a sort of indentured servitude whereby they have to put in 10 years at a desk in the first job they could get because suddenly the balances were coming due on those subsidized, deferred loans they took out to get through a 4 year program they didn't really want to go into at all.
My 30 year old millionaire boss and I just had that conversation a week ago. And we came up with pretty much, exactly this.
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