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[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Your rose-colored glasses are extra rosey this evening.

You're essentially talking about replacing 345 lbs of man-child with 305 lbs of meh and saying we'll be no worse for wear.

Did you read? I clearly was saying this is a formation we can use in situations like 2nd & long. I still believe we have to have Bailey/Howard/DeVito, Bailey/Howard/Cat, and Bailey/DeVito/Cat in our base 3/4.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Did you read? I clearly was saying this is a formation we can use in situations like 2nd & long. I still believe we have to have Bailey/Howard/DeVito, Bailey/Howard/Cat, and Bailey/DeVito/Cat in our base 3/4.

No offensive coordinator in the league, except, coincidentally, our own maybe, is going to throw out running plays on 2nd and 8.

2nd and 8 is just as run-friendly as 2nd and 6 or 2nd and 4. Most guys are going to try to make 3rd down more manageable.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

No offensive coordinator in the league, except, coincidentally, our own maybe, is going to throw out running plays on 2nd and 8.

2nd and 8 is just as run-friendly as 2nd and 6 or 2nd and 4. Most guys are going to try to make 3rd down more manageable.

I understand that but the formation I was talking about can stop the run in that situation (the point is to dare them to) This is the formation I was talking about now that I have a minute:

Gaines, Houston, Bailey, Howard/DeVito, Hali, Smith/Peters

Branch/Berry, Mauga/Wilson, DJ

Abdullah(on the slot if necessary)

Parker

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I understand that but the formation I was talking about can stop the run in that situation (the point is to dare them to) This is the formation I was talking about now that I have a minute:

Gaines, Houston, Bailey, Howard/DeVito, Hali, Smith/Peters

Branch/Berry, Mauga/Wilson, DJ

Abdullah(on the slot if necessary)

Parker

Berry/Branch & DJ are not 4-3 OLB's, and in case you missed last season, Mauga cannot get off a block. DeVito coming off injury, and Bailey not much of a 3 tech beef.. I dunno man. I dont see many double teams required there which mean mauga/DJ/Berry will be fighting off lineman all day. DJ made a LIVING knifing through because good 1/0 techs require a double team.

Only positive I can see is I like Houston & Tamba/Ford as a wide 9 DE. Much rather play a odd front with them though.

Just my $.02

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Berry/Branch & DJ are not 4-3 OLB's, and in case you missed last season, Mauga cannot get off a block. DeVito coming off injury, and Bailey not much of a 3 tech beef.. I dunno man. I dont see many double teams required there which mean mauga/DJ/Berry will be fighting off lineman all day. DJ made a LIVING knifing through because good 1/0 techs require a double team.

Only positive I can see is I like Houston & Tamba/Ford as a wide 9 DE. Much rather play a odd front with them though.

Just my $.02

For the 100th time this is not a base formation. Just situational. I would never expect Berry/Branch to play OLB for more than a few snaps. Devito/Howard would still be lining up at NT. Also, DJ played 4-3 OLB for half of his career.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by staylor26

For the 100th time this is not a base formation. Just situational. I would never expect Berry/Branch to play OLB for more than a few snaps. Devito/Howard would still be lining up at NT. Also, DJ played 4-3 OLB for half of his career.

yeah im late to the party. Im not reading 16 pages.

I'd rather have catapano @ DE and have houston on the line in some sort of over front. I'd rather walk berry into the box as a 8th than have him in as the 7th. Only way I'd take your scenario is as a sub package when the O is showing 311 or posse personnel.