Fantasy Football Russel Wilson and Friends agree to deal. - Page 9

Mr_Tomahawk · 07-31-2015, 07:46 AM

Russell Wilson and the Seahawks have agreed to a 4-year, $87.6-million extension, per source.

— Peter King (@SI_PeterKing) July 31, 2015

eDave · 07-31-2015, 02:29 PM

This thread has gone full reerun.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 02:43 PM

Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M and $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 02:45 PM

Every QB who signs a mega deal (sans Peyton Manning who was coming off injury), signs an extension. It's implied. So when someone says, "Russell will get 5/110 with 80", it's implied that it is going to be an extension to his current deal.

I cannot believe we're arguing these semantics. It's hilarious.

Of course, Dane is the same guy who concludes Russell is getting Alex money because he added the last year of Russell's rookie deal to Russ's new money and failed to do the same with Alex because he's a god damn, mouth breathing dumb ****.

Sassy Squatch · 07-31-2015, 02:45 PM

You guys will find the dumbest shit to argue over.

MagicHef · 07-31-2015, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not "logic", it's fact.

Agents and teams throw out all the crazy ass numbers to wow and impress people, but the books say otherwise.

If Aaron Rodgers is currently playing on a 7 year, $129 million dollar contract (and I'm just using your numbers, not looking them up), then he's averaging $18.4 million per year, that is, if he hits all of his escalators.

It's pretty simple.

You're not incorrect.

However, most people tend to look at a deal in terms of comparing it to what would have happened if no deal had been signed, i.e. the original contract with no extension.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle

You guys will find the dumbest shit to argue over.

Dane gets his foot stuck so far in his mouth it's actually impressive that he'll keep battling when he's ankle deep like that

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

You're not incorrect.

However, most people tend to look at a deal in terms of comparing it to what would have happened if no deal had been signed, i.e. the original contract with no extension.

well, unless you're DaneMcCloud ... who realized, "oh shit, I'm wrong ... how can I try to spin this to save face!"

...and then they'll start adding years from the old contract to make the extension fit their prerogative ... while quoting other QB's like Rodgers' and Smith contract's as if they weren't extension contracts

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-31-2015, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

well, unless you're DaneMcCloud ... who realized, "oh shit, I'm wrong ... how can I try to spin this to save face!"

...and then they'll start adding years from the old contract to make the extension fit their prerogative ... while quoting other QB's like Rodgers' and Smith contract's as if they weren't extension contracts

It's clear that you have absolutely zero understanding of finances and accounting and prefer to parrot whatever you'd told by the media.

Unsurprising.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's clear that you have absolutely zero understanding of finances and accounting and prefer to parrot whatever you'd told by the media.

Unsurprising.

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-31-2015, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M of which $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

Fixed. The way you're writing it, makes it look like the contract value is $148m.

Yeah, I'm nitpicking.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-31-2015, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M and $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

I'm not bashing you for your prediction. You said that you never threw out numbers, but you did, as proven by your quote.

I am, however, bashing you for your refusal to understand even simple math, which I've illustrated time and again and linked to a CBS Sports article that did the same.

I don't care for meaningless words like "extension". It's completely and utterly worthless. The fact of the matter is that Russell Wilson is now signed to the Seattle Seahawks for five seasons, with a maximum contractual value of $87.5 million, which divided by 5 seasons, equals $17.5 million dollars per season.

End of story.

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2015, 03:27 PM

Dane is so bad at this.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 03:37 PM

So Russell, on his 2nd contract, is making $17.5 with a metric shit ton of guarantees while Aaron, on his 3rd contract, is making $18.9 with a metric shit ton of guarantees.

Way to prove your point, man! Oh, what point was that again? That I predicted $22M a year over 5 years and he ended up getting $22M a year over 4 years instead? Where did you get this $25M number from?

Oh ... wait ... I forgot ... when I said 5/110 I forgot to include the last year of his rookie deal ... because, you know, people do that (no they don't.)

Dane pulled $25M out of his ass ... realized I correctly predicted $22M (just 1 year short), and then now is suddenly referencing the final year of his contract as some "see, I told you so!" sort of ridiculous tactic so he doesn't have to admit that yes, he was wrong (per usual).

Typical DaneMcCloud.

Hootie · 07-31-2015, 03:42 PM

I truly didn't remember predicting 5/110, either. It's just hilarious that Dane used that as some sort of "omg what an idiot!"

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-31-2015, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

So Russell, on his 2nd contract, is making $17.5 with a metric shit ton of guarantees while Aaron, on his 3rd contract, is making $18.9 with a metric shit ton of guarantees.

Way to prove your point, man! Oh, what point was that again? That I predicted $22M a year over 5 years and he ended up getting $22M a year over 4 years instead? Where did you get this $25M number from?

Oh ... wait ... I forgot ... when I said 5/110 I forgot to include the last year of his rookie deal ... because, you know, people do that (no they don't.)

Dane pulled $25M out of his ass ... realized I correctly predicted $22M (just 1 year short), and then now is suddenly referencing the final year of his contract as some "see, I told you so!" sort of ridiculous tactic so he doesn't have to admit that yes, he was wrong (per usual).

Typical DaneMcCloud.

Who cares what you "predicted" but you?

And for the record, your "prediction" was wrong.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed. Instead, he got 4 years, $88M and $60M guaranteed. But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!." What? God he's dumb.
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07-31-2015, 02:45 PM	#123
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Every QB who signs a mega deal (sans Peyton Manning who was coming off injury), signs an extension. It's implied. So when someone says, "Russell will get 5/110 with 80", it's implied that it is going to be an extension to his current deal. I cannot believe we're arguing these semantics. It's hilarious. Of course, Dane is the same guy who concludes Russell is getting Alex money because he added the last year of Russell's rookie deal to Russ's new money and failed to do the same with Alex because he's a god damn, mouth breathing dumb ****.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1490345	You guys will find the dumbest shit to argue over.
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07-31-2015, 03:37 PM	#133
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	So Russell, on his 2nd contract, is making $17.5 with a metric shit ton of guarantees while Aaron, on his 3rd contract, is making $18.9 with a metric shit ton of guarantees. Way to prove your point, man! Oh, what point was that again? That I predicted $22M a year over 5 years and he ended up getting $22M a year over 4 years instead? Where did you get this $25M number from? Oh ... wait ... I forgot ... when I said 5/110 I forgot to include the last year of his rookie deal ... because, you know, people do that (no they don't.) Dane pulled $25M out of his ass ... realized I correctly predicted $22M (just 1 year short), and then now is suddenly referencing the final year of his contract as some "see, I told you so!" sort of ridiculous tactic so he doesn't have to admit that yes, he was wrong (per usual). Typical DaneMcCloud.
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07-31-2015, 03:42 PM	#134
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I truly didn't remember predicting 5/110, either. It's just hilarious that Dane used that as some sort of "omg what an idiot!"
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