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Old 07-31-2015, 07:46 AM  
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Russel Wilson and Friends agree to deal.

Russell Wilson and the Seahawks have agreed to a 4-year, $87.6-million extension, per source.

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Old 07-31-2015, 08:39 PM   #151
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Oh, so he'll get another extension before 2019!? No way! Dane is a ****ing idiot
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:00 PM   #152
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Posted by Mike Florio on July 31, 2015, 5:45 PM EDT

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“New money” has become one of the great fictions in the assessment of NFL contracts. But, you know, when in Rome.



For Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, the headline is that he signed a four-year, $87.6 million extension, with a new-money average of $21.9 million. The truth is that the last year of his current contract, at a base salary of $1.542 million, has been ripped up and replaced with a new five-year, $89.1 million deal.



But since the average of the total five-year deal is $17.8 million, it won’t be characterized that way when it comes to deciding whose is bigger.



For Wilson, the details of the five-year, $89.1 million deal have begun to emerge. With one important key metric still missing.



The signing bonus, per multiple reports, is $31 million. The total guarantee, per multiple reports, is $60 million. The amount fully guaranteed of the remaining $29 million in guarantees remains unknown.



It’s a key point because the Seahawks and Wilson’s agent had been squabbling about the portion of the contract that will be fully guaranteed at signing, since future fully-guaranteed payments must be placed into escrow now. (To raise the money, Gantt could have organized a bake sale for owner Paul Allen.)



The Dolphins fully guaranteed $60 million of defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh’s contract. For Wilson, the question is whether and to what extent he has fully-guaranteed payments beyond the $31 million signing bonus.



The base salaries are, via Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, $700,000 in 2015, $12.34 million in 2016, $12.6 million in 2017, $15.5 million in 2018, and $17 million in 2019.



This makes the cap numbers $6.9 million in 2015 (plus any remaining bonus proration from his rookie deal), $18.54 million in 2016, $18.8 million in 2017, $21.7 million in 2018, and $23.2 million in 2019.



As the salary cap continues to climb, Wilson won’t last long as the second highest-paid player in the NFL. From Eli Manning to Philip Rivers to Andrew Luck to other young quarterbacks who become stars, the bar soon will be pushed to $23 million, $25 million, and beyond.



By 2019, Wilson’s salary of $17 million will be middle-of-the-pack at best. Before then, if he keeps playing like he has, Wilson likely will have another new deal.



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So this settles our debate from earlier.

His base salary for 2015 would have been $1.5 mil and his cap hit would have been $1.6 mil. The new contract changed everything. Now his base salary in 2015 will be $700,000 and his cap hit shoots up to $6.9 mil.
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:18 PM   #153
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I don't know what to tell you, man. I really don't. I was right, you were wrong. There is no debate. It happens
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:26 PM   #154
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I don't know what to tell you, man. I really don't. I was right, you were wrong. There is no debate. It happens
What were you right about, exactly?
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:11 PM   #155
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I'm not bashing you for your prediction. You said that you never threw out numbers, but you did, as proven by your quote.

I am, however, bashing you for your refusal to understand even simple math, which I've illustrated time and again and linked to a CBS Sports article that did the same.

I don't care for meaningless words like "extension". It's completely and utterly worthless. The fact of the matter is that Russell Wilson is now signed to the Seattle Seahawks for five seasons, with a maximum contractual value of $87.5 million, which divided by 5 seasons, equals $17.5 million dollars per season.

End of story.
The same media you accused of uninformed people watch (believe) previous in this thread?

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Old 07-31-2015, 10:13 PM   #156
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The same media you accused of uninformed people watch (believe) previous in this thread?

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Old 07-31-2015, 10:14 PM   #157
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What were you right about, exactly?
That he would have received the rookie salary without and extension?

Not the move to include a rookie wage that is slotted now.
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Mass media. CBS.

My bad I think that was the Tom thread. But did say media bias.
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There is not a single aspect of this debate that you have been right about.
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:32 AM   #161
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There is not a single aspect of this debate that you have been right about.
Please, by all means, elaborate
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Please do. I have no idea what this argument is about...
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I predicted Russell would get 5/110 with 80 and he got 4/88 with 60 and somehow that makes me an idiot
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I predicted Russell would get 5/110 with 80 and he got 4/88 with 60 and somehow that makes me an idiot
And this is not an extension, right? This is a new deal?
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And this is not an extension, right? This is a new deal?
I didn't specify, so apparently that makes me even dumber. You know, because every QB contract isn't an extension or anything.
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