Dontari Poe will miss camp due to back injury

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Losing Poe sucks. He won't play until October.

He'll miss the whole season. You don't come back quickly from a herniated disc surgery and then play NT in the NFL just weeks later. Unrealistic, period.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

He'll miss the whole season. You don't come back quickly from a herniated disc surgery and then play NT in the NFL just weeks later. Unrealistic, period.

And Berry will never play this season, either. There were examples posted of players doing it and retuning to the starting line-up. He's very young. He will pay this season.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And Berry will never play this season, either. There were examples posted of players doing it and retuning to the starting line-up. He's very young. He will pay this season.

This is the reason I'm not that worried, and I'm not going to get riled up over something that there isn't any footage on.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And Berry will never play this season, either. There were examples posted of players doing it and retuning to the starting line-up. He's very young. He will pay this season.

If Berry plays significant snaps this season at his previous level, it will be a testament to his will power and the power of medicine.

It would be completely unprecedented and would mean far more to those suffering from cancer than any football fan could imagine.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Berry plays significant snaps this season at his previous level, it will be a testament to ........

the grace and power of God.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

the grace and power of God.

It's a good thing he used his infinite power to give Berry cancer only to turn around and eradicate it 8 months later for reasons and such.

What a just and merciful God he is.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

It's a good thing he used his infinite power to give Berry cancer only to turn around and eradicate it 8 months later for reasons and such.

What a just and merciful God he is.

Being religious myself, I still don't know how people could believe that God gives or cures cancer, or that he knows everything that is ever going to happen. I mean, what would be the point? It would be like paying to see a movie that you made yourself. I can see creation as an experiment and he is watching what unfolds, but I don't see him pulling any strings.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

There were examples posted of players doing it and retuning to the starting line-up.

Please encourage me. Not trying to be a negative Nelly here but......

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Please encourage me. Not trying to be a negative Nelly here but......

I'll try to find it. I think it's in this thread.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Please encourage me. Not trying to be a negative Nelly here but......

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

NEW YORK – Professional football players, even those in the most physically punishing positions, can undergo back surgery and return to the gridiron, researchers at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine report in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

"They aren't broken, they aren't more fragile after surgery," orthopedic surgeon and lead author Dr. Joseph K. Weistroffer told Reuters Health. "Four out of five who have surgery not only return to play, they return to starter positions."

Weistroffer and colleagues decided to look into how often National Football League linemen returned to play following surgery for a herniated disk after hearing a broadcaster declare a player "broken" and unlikely to play again after surgery.

Linemen tend to be the biggest, heaviest players on the team. Their responsibilities require a lot of crouching, twisting and pummeling on the field, putting tremendous stress on their backs.

Herniated disk - sometimes called a "slipped disk" occurs when soft cushioning disks between spinal vertebrae become displaced. The leaking disc material pressing on spinal nerves can produce intense back pain and numbness or tingling in arms or legs.

Among college football players, 15 percent to 50 percent of linemen suffer lower-back disk injuries including herniations.


To see how well elite NFL players fare, the researchers gathered information about linemen on team rosters between 1982 and 2009 from various sources including press reports, team injury reports, newspaper archives, team records and individual players' profiles. Only those NFL linemen diagnosed with a herniated disk in at least two independent sources and one official league injury report were included.

Of the 66 players included in the study, 14 were treated non-surgically and 52 treated with surgery. Of those treated surgically, 42 (81 percent) returned to play in at least one game, although most played an average of 33 games over 3 years.

The success of surgical treatment in NFL linemen was "significantly better than we expected," the authors write.

"What's remarkable is that many of these players not only returned to play, they returned to starter positions," Weistroffer said.

Of the players treated with surgery, 36 had been starters before their herniated disk diagnosis and 33 of them returned to that status after surgery.

In contrast, only four of the 14 players treated non-surgically returned to play. Weistroffer cautions against reading any significance into that fact. "The numbers are too small to draw conclusions from," he said.

Nonsurgical treatment for herniated disk usually includes muscle relaxers, pain killers and anti-inflammatory medications, and may involve cold compresses applied several times a day.
Surgery to open the back, clean out leaked disc material and stabilize the spine is a treatment of last resort, Weistroffer said.

"No surgery is the best option for everyone, including elite athletes," he said. "But if a herniated disc doesn't heal naturally, surgery may be an option" without branding a lineman as damaged for good.

The results of this study, the authors point out, cannot be generalized to the population at large.

Elite athletes have strong incentives to return to play including in some cases multi-million dollar contracts. In addition, elite athletes have significant resources available to help in rehab including "focused, well-trained professional staff dedicated to strength and conditioning."

Nevertheless, "if a NFL lineman can return to full activities, the average Joe has a good chance to get back on with their life if they don't heal naturally and decide to turn to surgery," Weistroffer said.

His age will make a huge difference.

He's going to play and he's going to play soon. And he will surely get much more rest than he has in the past.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

His age will make a huge difference.

He's going to play and he's going to play soon. And he will surely get much more rest than he has in the past.

This is pure speculation, just as your speculation that Tyson Jackson was going to be "awesome".

You simply can't predict how someone's body will react after months of chemotherapy.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is pure speculation, just as your speculation that Tyson Jackson was going to be "awesome".

You simply can't predict how someone's body will react after months of chemotherapy.

Did you read the article? He's talking about Poe

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is pure speculation, just as your speculation that Tyson Jackson was going to be "awesome".

You simply can't predict how someone's body will react after months of chemotherapy.

That swings both ways, dude. Evidence from the article above states he will be able to play. So why do people automatically get a pass for speculating that he is broken and won't play this season, or be the same, yet any positive outlook gets dismissed. And stop acting like everyone here hasn't missed on how a player will turn out. I've already said I was wrong. Again, I've never had a problem admitting when I am wrong unlike most of the hard heads here.
99% of this board was wrong about Berry. Including you.

And BTW, your first sentence makes zero sense.

Here, let me help:
(This is pure speculation, just as your statement that Tyson Jackson was going to be "awesome" was)

Also, quoting "awesome" without a link is disingenuous

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

That swings both ways, dude. Evidence from the article above states he will be able to play. So why do people automatically get a pass for speculating that he is broken and won't play this season, or be the same, yet any positive outlook gets dismissed. And stop acting like everyone here hasn't missed on how a player will turn out. I've already said I was wrong. Again, I've never had a problem admitting when I am wrong unlike most of the hard heads here.
99% of this board was wrong about Berry. Including you.

99.99% of the world would be wrong about Berry. Do you even understand cancer? Actually, I hope you don't because once you're faced with it, there are no words to describe the impact.

And BTW, your first sentence makes zero sense.

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Here, let me help:
(This is pure speculation, just as your statement that Tyson Jackson was going to be "awesome" was)

Also, quoting "awesome" without a link is disingenuous

I will find the quote. You said it. I was completely down about the Tyson Jackson pick went off on draft day. You posted that watched the SEC all the time and said he was going to be "Awesome".

Once I find it, will that make my post less "disingenuous"?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Also, quoting "awesome" without a link is disingenuous

Here's one:

http://m.chiefsplanet.com/showthread...206614&page=49

beach tribe 03:23 PM 12-18-2009 Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
What?

Are you smokin' crack again?


Tyson Jackson will probably be a ten year starter for us, and your lover Sanchez is gonna be a back up for the Raiders in 5 years.