****OFFICIAL Royals at Blue Jays GDT 08/02****

[RealSNR]

Time to take a catheter and shove it up their Dickey!

Game start: 12:07 central

KC: Volquez (10-5, 3.21)
TOR: Dickey (5-10, 4.27)

Go Royals!


Royals
Escobar
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Perez
Rios
Cuthbert
Infante

Blue Jays
Tulowitzki
Donaldson
Bautista
Encarnacion
Colabello
Martin
Pillar
Goins
Revere

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Man you are showing your ass in this thread. White Sox drama started opening day when Samardzija plunked Cain. Lawrie hard slide, he took one and it was pretty much over until Kazmir plunked a batter and it was on once again.

Guys get hit. Holliday got hit, Lackey drilled a Kipnis (I think) and everyone went on their merry way. The Royals, OTOH, made a huge show of it with Hosmer and Moustakas leading the charge from the dugout.

As to the A's, really? It was pretty much over? C'mon, your guys were all over Oakland that day and the next. And to call Cain's HBP a 'plunking' is just silly. Kazmir didn't hit him on purpose - if anyone was going to target Cain it would've been the night before when they had a 5 run lead and Cain led off the 9th - that's a textbook 'flip' sign moment. But again, everything has malevolent intent when the Royals are involved, right? Beyond that, if Kazmir wanted to hit him, he'd have just put it in his back like everyone does and if the A's were giving instructions to hit him, it wouldn't have been in the rubber game of that series tied 0-0. Instead the fact that Cain got hit low is some kind of proof that Kazmir is even MORE evil and was going after some surgical soft spot for Cain. Gimme a break.

Like I said - it's always the other guy when the Royals are involved, right?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

It absolutely is. It's like being TBFIBB TM gives the mother****ers amnesia.

I remember whitey crying about the metrodome and that Twins turned on the big fans that helped the ball fly out of that dump. That they piped in noise there.

The crying over Penitentiary Face Leonard when he went "one flap down" on his HR's in the NLCS.

Tom Lawless (he's a legend) watching his 4th inning HR go out of the park from the plate, then flipping the bat 25 feet in the air and by the time he crossed the plate, it was almost Christmas. He hit 2 career HR's.

Eat shit, Cards fans.

They prefer the taste of semen, but I'm sure a shit buffet every now and then isn't above them.

[Hootie]

Cardinals fans want to ban me from their thread ... But they can come in here whenever they want and tell us how much baseball knowledge we lack

****ing awful fan base those ****s are

[Hootie]

DJ embarrassed the **** out of himself in this thread. Good Lord. He clearly didn't watch any of those April squabbles and he's trying to put it on Cain having temper tantrums?

Omg go away you ****ing idiot. Embarrassing. Josh Donaldson level of embarrassment

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Guys get hit. Holliday got hit, Lackey drilled a Kipnis (I think) and everyone went on their merry way. The Royals, OTOH, made a huge show of it with Hosmer and Moustakas leading the charge from the dugout.

As to the A's, really? It was pretty much over? C'mon, your guys were all over Oakland that day and the next. And to call Cain's HBP a 'plunking' is just silly. Kazmir didn't hit him on purpose - if anyone was going to target Cain it would've been the night before when they had a 5 run lead and Cain led off the 9th - that's a textbook 'flip' sign moment. But again, everything has malevolent intent when the Royals are involved, right? Beyond that, if Kazmir wanted to hit him, he'd have just put it in his back like everyone does and if the A's were giving instructions to hit him, it wouldn't have been in the rubber game of that series tied 0-0. Instead the fact that Cain got hit low is some kind of proof that Kazmir is even MORE evil and was going after some surgical soft spot for Cain. Gimme a break.

Like I said - it's always the other guy when the Royals are involved, right?

Whether Kazmir tried to hit Cain intentionally or not, the team had hit a tipping point with guys getting plunked. Kind of like Donaldson on Sunday, even though it didn't make sense for it to be intentional, the "in the moment feel" was different.

It might have stayed a dead issue if Kazmir doesn't miss his spot by two feet (then go on to show pinpoint control the rest of the day).

[DeezNutz]

When I don't follow games/teams closely, I always try to make very pointed arguments about them.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

When I don't follow games/teams closely, I always try to make very pointed arguments about them.

That's why you're one of the best fans in...

I won't do that to you.

[DeezNutz]

In terms of "problems" with the Royals, these are almost all connected with Ventura. Guy needs to chill the **** out a little bit. Everything else is pretty much a non-issue.

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

DJ embarrassed the **** out of himself in this thread. Good Lord. He clearly didn't watch any of those April squabbles and he's trying to put it on Cain having temper tantrums?

Omg go away you ****ing idiot. Embarrassing. Josh Donaldson level of embarrassment

I didn't realize how dumb Cardinals fans are these days. The one announcer (maybe Joe Buck) is always talking about how good they are, I didn't know that he didn't know what he was talking about.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Ventura going at Bautista was a response to two things: Bautista calling out Ned Yost (who for all his shortcomings, is loved by his players) and Bautista being the center of the Royals' sign-stealing complaints (which is an issue that has followed him around for a long time, too).

Ventura is a red-ass who needs to mature. Just don't act like he started that whole Twitter exchange out of nowhere.

It was still batshit and a sign that the guy is as much of a loose cannon as he's ever been.

Lawrie's slide was late, dirty, and unnecessary. You won't convince anyone here of anything different. And you won't convince those of us who played baseball at advanced levels that slide and the placement of his foot was necessary. It wasn't.

I don't expect I'll convince any of you otherwise - I still don't buy it. Wong got clipped on a play just like that a couple of weeks ago; nothing came of it. That slide happens as bad or worse every week. Sandoval's was just as bad the day before (against the Orioles I believe) and nobody batted an eye. Escobar got hit in the top of the calf with a heel - it's not like he was Ty Cobb kicking him in the hip and yet that's how it's not characterized. As for unnecesssary - no dice; Lawrie had no way to know that the throw wasn't going across. You've seen the kind of body control middle infielders have - he could easily have slung that over from where he was and Lawrie wasn't going to let him do it. That's just baseball. Had Escobar simply walked away, nothing comes of it. Instead he lays on the ground like his leg is broken...then starts the next day. Drama queens indeed. That was a baseball play that was no more dirty or unnecessary than any number of baserunners that will all but slide in sideways to take out a potential DP.

Cain has been drilled a lot. He doesn't like that, and he - like most players - looks at the pitcher and might say something to him as he walks to first. What are you talking about regarding temper tantrums, though? Cain hasn't done anything that even closely resembles a temper tantrum (he's never even done anything close to what Donaldson did on Sunday).

Sorry but this gets back to my gripe with Lofton - every time that guy got hit he had something to say to the pitcher and Cain's the same in that regard. Quibble with the terminology if you will, but Cain's thin skinned. Again I'll reference Wong - that dude has been hit 13 times this season and he doesn't feel compelled to chatter at the P every time it happens. Jon Jay got hit 20 times last year and his response was the same every time; flips bat and goes. That's the normal reaction. Your position that most hitters are talking to the pitcher as they go up the line just isn't true. Most don't. Some do.

The whole thing with the White Sox never goes ANYWHERE if Jeff Samardzija doesn't bull rush his way through everybody trying get to Cain.

The benches might not even empty if Samardzija isn't yelling shit from the dugout at Christian Colon of all ****ing people the previous inning (after Colon lined out and was waiting for someone to bring him his glove).

And Samardzija probably isn't yelling shit from the dugout if Hosmer and Moustakas aren't yelling at him from the dugout after the Cain HBP in the season opener. The bad blood there started from opening day and as near as I can tell was just carryover from the Royals still really hating that guy from his Oakland days. You want to tell someone to let it go...that's probably where I'd start. And of course Volquez and Herrera are in the middle of that one as well.

Nobody's ever wholly to blame in these things, but again, at some point you have to acknowledge that the Royals are disproportionately featured in them. Royals fans can claim all they want that it's because teams don't like that they're not bad anymore but gimme a break - the plucky upstart thing works in your own locker room but it's not like Samardzija and Lawrie were thinking fondly back on the good ol' days when the Royals lost games and were livid at the Royals newfound success.

[KCUnited]

the Royals hate carrying over from beating the A's in dramatic fashion on their way to the WS.

[Dartgod]

Still waiting for more examples of the shit the Royals have been involved in ALL SEASON.

You either have me on ignore, or realize that I busted you talking out your ass and are too embarrassed to own it.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Blue Jays reliever Aaron Sanchez was suspended three games for throwing at #Royals Alcides Escobar on Sunday.

— Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) August 4, 2015

Toronto manager John Gibbons was also suspended, for one game, for coming back on to the field.

— Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) August 4, 2015

[C3HIEF3S]

No Royals suspended.
YEAH TOTALLY IN THE WRONG

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

No Royals suspended.
YEAH TOTALLY IN THE WRONG

So Brett Lawrie was totally vindicated when he wasn't suspended as well, right?

CLEAN SLIDE!!