Chiefs Andy Reid, John Dorsey under pressure with Chiefs' 1-4 start

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-13-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I actually think Smith would be a manageable QB under a different coach

Him and Reid should have never met they have a toxic relationship

I completely disagree.

2011-2013 Alex Smith? Sure.

2015 Alex Smith? No way. Not a chance. He's playing scared and has no confidence from getting beaten in 2014 and suffering a lacerated spleen.

He's done.

**Baby Lee** · 10-13-2015, 04:17 PM

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I completely disagree.

2011-2013 Alex Smith? Sure.

2015 Alex Smith? No way. Not a chance. He's playing scared and has no confidence from getting beaten in 2014 and suffering a lacerated spleen.

He's done.

I would never say Alex is Kurt Warner, but Saccappoo's comparision of 2015 Alex to Kurt with the Giants is meritorious in terms of distance from potential and capacity for rebound.

oaklandhater · 10-13-2015, 04:24 PM

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I completely disagree.

2011-2013 Alex Smith? Sure.

2015 Alex Smith? No way. Not a chance. He's playing scared and has no confidence from getting beaten in 2014 and suffering a lacerated spleen.

He's done.

He looks the same now as he did under Singletary and Nolan it takes the right coach for him to calm down.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-13-2015, 04:29 PM

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He looks the same now as he did under Singletary and Nolan it takes the right coach for him to calm down.

You give him kcs 2015 defense in San Francisco, and Alex would be the same QB with Harbaugh too. Harbaugh doesn't lose games the way Reid does, so that's true. But it's not exactly the best scenario to have a QB that reliant on other people's help to win games.

oaklandhater · 10-13-2015, 04:32 PM

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You give him kcs 2015 defense in San Francisco, and Alex would be the same QB with Harbaugh too. Harbaugh doesn't lose games the way Reid does, so that's true. But it's not exactly the best scenario to have a QB that reliant on other people's help to win games.

No one is saying he can take you to the superbowl (he almost did) I'm just trying to say he looked like a NFL starting QB under Harbaugh.

With Reid he looks worst then Cassel did with the chiefs.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-13-2015, 04:37 PM

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No one is saying he can take you to the superbowl (he almost did) I'm just trying to say he looked like a NFL starting QB under Harbaugh.

With Reid he looks worst then Cassel did with the chiefs.

So did kaepernick. It was the defense and running game. Any mediocre QB would have succeeded with the kind of talent and coaching there.

oaklandhater · 10-13-2015, 04:41 PM

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So did kaepernick. It was the defense and running game. Any mediocre QB would have succeeded with the kind of talent and coaching there.

I think it was more on Greg Roman doing an amazing job of hiding there faults

chiefzilla1501 · 10-13-2015, 04:55 PM

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I think it was more on Greg Roman doing an amazing job of hiding there faults

Roman is an excellent playcaller. But Alex's game manager style in San Francisco won't fly on teams without a dominant run game or defense. Even in KC... Alex smith's record when the defense was playing at a top 5 level was pretty good.

I'm not pro Reid by any means. I knew what we were getting from day 1. But let's not forget that his team was consistently in the top 10 in points and yardage. He's an idiot situationally but he does know offense.