Football Chiefs are NFL's most disappointing team

Discuss Thrower · 10-23-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

We have way too much talent to be this bad.

Dorsey can stay, everyone else goes.

btw - Dorsey better stop ****ing around with the Oline.

Dorsey has to nail the 2016 draft or else this team will be Oakland 2003-2014 bad.

As in they'll struggle to win 20 games over a five year span bad.

Mr. Laz · 10-23-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Dorsey has to nail the 2016 draft or else this team will be Oakland 2003-2014 bad.

As in they'll struggle to win 20 games over a five year span bad.

lol, wut?

O.city · 10-23-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Dorsey has to nail the 2016 draft or else this team will be Oakland 2003-2014 bad.

As in they'll struggle to win 20 games over a five year span bad.

Nail as in like what?

You like to paint the 2013 and 14 drafts as the worst drafts ever, right?

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Nail as in like what?

You like to paint the 2013 and 14 drafts as the worst drafts ever, right?

QB LT LB 2WR The biggest hits we need off the next draft

Discuss Thrower · 10-23-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Nail as in like what?

You like to paint the 2013 and 14 drafts as the worst drafts ever, right?

Kelce is the only guy out of those classes who would start on any of the other 31 teams in the league.

2013 wasn't totally Dorsey's fault (though trading two 2nd round picks was a bad move), but 2014 he botched pretty soundly by whiffing on Dee Ford and taking a worthless gadget player in Thomas.

O.city · 10-23-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Kelce is the only guy out of those classes who would start on any of the other 31 teams in the league.

2013 wasn't totally Dorsey's fault (though trading two 2nd round picks was a bad move), but 2014 he botched pretty soundly by whiffing on Dee Ford and taking a worthless gadget player in Thomas.

We have no clue about ford yet because they won't put him on the field. Maybe that's enough evidence, but I'd imagine that one is undecided.

But kelce is the only one? Not likely. And because a 4th round pick is a gadget, it's a whiff?

I think you generally have a decent grip on things but the over exaggeration seems to be something you have a grasp on.

Fwiw, Gaines was playing pretty well as a 2nd year player at the Nickel spot as well.

So I th8nk you're overdoing it a bit here

Discuss Thrower · 10-23-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We have no clue about ford yet because they won't put him on the field. Maybe that's enough evidence, but I'd imagine that one is undecided.

But kelce is the only one? Not likely. And because a 4th round pick is a gadget, it's a whiff?

I think you generally have a decent grip on things but the over exaggeration seems to be something you have a grasp on.

Fwiw, Gaines was playing pretty well as a 2nd year player at the Nickel spot as well.

So I th8nk you're overdoing it a bit here

Whatever Gaines brings to the table is outweighed by the rest of the class.

Ford sucks by the fact he can't unseat Hali.. and Hali should have retired a year ago. And yeah Thomas was a 4th rounder but in what world did it make sense to take a 5'9 kick returner when the team had holes at #2 WR and just about every OL spot outside of center?

O.city · 10-23-2015, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Whatever Gaines brings to the table is outweighed by the rest of the class.

Ford sucks by the fact he can't unseat Hali.. and Hali should have retired a year ago. And yeah Thomas was a 4th rounder but in what world did it make sense to take a 5'9 kick returner when the team had holes at #2 WR and just about every OL spot outside of center?

You're looking at 7 picks normally, if you hit 3 of those it's a solid draft. I think your over valuing expectations here.

They should have let Hali walk or retire, I agree therr. But I'm not ready to walk from ford yet because I think it's just not enough info.

They've also hit on alot of UDFA in this year's so its not quite as bleak as its being made out to be.

Just as with every other regime we've seen, they made the wrong decision with the qb and the trickle down effect is likely to get them fired, which is ironic because I'm guessing that was their fear, causing them to go conservative

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-23-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Dorsey has to nail the 2016 draft or else this team will be Oakland 2003-2014 bad.

As in they'll struggle to win 20 games over a five year span bad.

If you think the roster is that bad, then you must think Reid isn't doing such a bad job.

Discuss Thrower · 10-23-2015, 02:55 PM

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If you think the roster is that bad, then you must think Reid isn't doing such a bad job.

The Chiefs 2013 draft class busted outside of Kelce and Knile (.. and even then..)

The 2014 draft is a bust outisde of Gaines unless Murray steps on to the field and shows something.

Jury is still out on 2015 obviously, but if Peters is the only guy worth a shit out of that group then there's a serious depth problem with the team.

Go look at how the 2013/2014 Seahawks were built. Spoiler alert: it was hitting on at least half the picks in three straight draft classes.

Unless you have a franchise QB, Seattle demonstrated the model of building a complete team through the draft. KC will not compete for a Lombardi from this year to 2017. But if the '15, '16 and '17 draft classes pan out, then we could have a team that should be a wild card contender in 2017 and a conference final team in '18-'20.