Chiefs Chiefs fans who want less of Alex Smith may get their wish after 2016 - Page 7

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 10:57 AM

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SEAN KEELER
Yesterday at 7:14 PM
Kansas City faithful want a divorce from their struggling signal-caller. But that signal-caller has a contract that doesn’t get (ahem) ‘team-friendly’ until AFTER next fall.

Look we get it, we get it: You want a divorce. Now. Yesterday, if possible.
You saw the wounded duck that left Alex Smith’s arm in the Twin Cities during a fourth-quarter comeback that fell short. And speaking of falling short, there was No. 11’s next offering. Mercy.
It may not seem conceivable, cruel even, for Kansas City Chiefs fans to get hammered with any more undesirable news at the moment. Not after 1-5 and a campaign that looks completely off the rails. Not after a freak injury ended Jamaal Charles’ season before he could try and save it. Not after Jeremy Maclin, the club’s only front-line veteran wide receiver, stuck in limbo as he recovers from a concussion.
Well, here’s some gruel to go with the cruel, baby: $7.1 million.
As in, that’s the cap hit the Chiefs would take by cutting Smith in 2016.
At least according to the fun little calculator provided by the folks over at OverTheCap.com, who list the dead money owed to the Chiefs’ quarterback at staggering $24.9 million as of next year. (Current dead money: an even more staggering $40.4 million.)
“Dead money,” in layman’s terms, is money from a player’s contract that continues to count against a team’s salary cap after said player is no longer on the roster. It’s not just a barometer of a particular team’s investment — it’s a benchmark of just how hard it could be to excise that player (and contract) immediately from the program.
The Chiefs have three players who are projected to account for more than $10 million in dead money in 2016, if cut: Smith, outside linebacker Justin Houston ($16.4 million) and wideout Jeremy Maclin ($19.35 million). In a salary-cap universe, long-term, big-money investments are precious. And, for better or worse, those are the three horses general manager John Dorsey has hitched his wagon to for at least the next 15 months. A June 1 cut of the Chiefs’ signal-caller would actually add $100,000 to the 2016 cap but still would leave $17.7 million in dead money.
To put it another way: In the short term, you’re stuck with him, kids.
So, yes, you could draft his replacement next spring. But instead of the wanderlust for, say, current Cal quarterback Jared Goff — a tall, smart California kid (not unlike Smith) whose college stats aren’t exactly hurt by playing in a Mike Leach-style passing system — maybe the Chiefs should invest a first round pick next spring by upgrading the toys Smith is going to be able to play with. Such as, say, left tackle. Or a valid No. 2 receiver. Or insurance/cover for either Charles or tight end Travis Kelce.
If the first six weeks have proven anything, it’s that No. 11 needs the help. And that the shopping list has rarely been longer.

Simply Red · 10-23-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Although I'd gladly take that extraordinary cap hit just to have Sandy Cheeks go the **** away and follow her boyfriend to the Calgary Stampede or wherever the **** it is he plays next.

you seem nice.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

That was clear back in 2011, you know back when Andy Reid was. . . . 1-5?!?!

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's the core problem. We need better QB play. But there are maybe 5-7 QBs in NFL history that can make the current team a legit contender. Even then, the jump from legit contender to SB participant or even champion is a roll of the dice.

We have many holes and everyone is obsessed with filling one.

Plenty of qbs could have made last year's team a contender. And while the defense has been bad this year, they've been good enough for a top 10 QB to win games.

Fixing the QB solves a shitload of problems. It makes receivers better. It opens up the running game. It lets the defense off the field when your offense isn't constantly going three and out. And a true QB can read the blitzBlitz, adjust the protections, and get rid of the ball quickly to improve the ol. Not to mention a defense can play better when the opponent is pressing to score.

Do we really have that many issues? I'd say consistently strong defensive and offensive playcalling with a new QB fixes a shitload of our problems.

**PHOG** · 10-23-2015, 05:58 PM

I don't know where Alex Smith went wrong...watching that vid..makes me wonder....

mcaj22 · 10-23-2015, 06:00 PM

take the cap hit, cut/don't re-sign the veterans and let the young guys play next year.

need a full rebuild anyway.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-23-2015, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

If the chiefs draft another LT in the 1st round CP is gonna lost is $hit

I'll lose nothing. The Chiefs are nothing and have been nothing for years. Telling this team to go **** itself for eternity is BEYOND an easy feat.

This is the last chance.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

I'll lose nothing. The Chiefs are nothing and have been nothing for years. Telling this team to go **** itself for eternity is BEYOND an easy feat.

This is the last chance.

You tease.

Now I don't know where to root.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-23-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You tease.

Now I don't know where to root.

Oh I'll be here, just not as a fan.

It will be even worse.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Oh I'll be here, just not as a fan.

It will be even worse.

So, the same as now.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-23-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

So, the same as now.

Worse.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Worse.

Be sure and PM Bob Dole.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-23-2015, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Be sure and PM Bob Dole.

Who?

Psyko Tek · 10-23-2015, 10:26 PM

less 3 and outs would help the D
Suttons firing would help one hell of a lot more
sorry
time for another reboot,loses the coaches, keep dorsey?
I dunno
he ain't piloi bad, but...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-23-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

less 3 and outs would help the D
Suttons firing would help one hell of a lot more
sorry
time for another reboot,loses the coaches, keep dorsey?
I dunno
he ain't piloi bad, but...

Dorsey is not the problem.

GloucesterChief · 10-23-2015, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Dorsey is not the problem.

Going 1/3 for first round draft picks is a big problem.

10-23-2015, 10:57 AM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5828993	Chiefs fans who want less of Alex Smith may get their wish after 2016 http://www.scout.com/nfl/chiefs/stor...pot-with-smith SEAN KEELER Yesterday at 7:14 PM Kansas City faithful want a divorce from their struggling signal-caller. But that signal-caller has a contract that doesn’t get (ahem) ‘team-friendly’ until AFTER next fall. Look we get it, we get it: You want a divorce. Now. Yesterday, if possible. You saw the wounded duck that left Alex Smith’s arm in the Twin Cities during a fourth-quarter comeback that fell short. And speaking of falling short, there was No. 11’s next offering. Mercy. It may not seem conceivable, cruel even, for Kansas City Chiefs fans to get hammered with any more undesirable news at the moment. Not after 1-5 and a campaign that looks completely off the rails. Not after a freak injury ended Jamaal Charles’ season before he could try and save it. Not after Jeremy Maclin, the club’s only front-line veteran wide receiver, stuck in limbo as he recovers from a concussion. Well, here’s some gruel to go with the cruel, baby: $7.1 million. As in, that’s the cap hit the Chiefs would take by cutting Smith in 2016. At least according to the fun little calculator provided by the folks over at OverTheCap.com, who list the dead money owed to the Chiefs’ quarterback at staggering $24.9 million as of next year. (Current dead money: an even more staggering $40.4 million.) “Dead money,” in layman’s terms, is money from a player’s contract that continues to count against a team’s salary cap after said player is no longer on the roster. It’s not just a barometer of a particular team’s investment — it’s a benchmark of just how hard it could be to excise that player (and contract) immediately from the program. The Chiefs have three players who are projected to account for more than $10 million in dead money in 2016, if cut: Smith, outside linebacker Justin Houston ($16.4 million) and wideout Jeremy Maclin ($19.35 million). In a salary-cap universe, long-term, big-money investments are precious. And, for better or worse, those are the three horses general manager John Dorsey has hitched his wagon to for at least the next 15 months. A June 1 cut of the Chiefs’ signal-caller would actually add $100,000 to the 2016 cap but still would leave $17.7 million in dead money. To put it another way: In the short term, you’re stuck with him, kids. So, yes, you could draft his replacement next spring. But instead of the wanderlust for, say, current Cal quarterback Jared Goff — a tall, smart California kid (not unlike Smith) whose college stats aren’t exactly hurt by playing in a Mike Leach-style passing system — maybe the Chiefs should invest a first round pick next spring by upgrading the toys Smith is going to be able to play with. Such as, say, left tackle. Or a valid No. 2 receiver. Or insurance/cover for either Charles or tight end Travis Kelce. If the first six weeks have proven anything, it’s that No. 11 needs the help. And that the shopping list has rarely been longer.
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PHOG Dazed and Confused Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere Out There Casino cash: $-1839500	I don't know where Alex Smith went wrong...watching that vid..makes me wonder....
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	take the cap hit, cut/don't re-sign the veterans and let the young guys play next year. need a full rebuild anyway.
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Psyko Tek special teams Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mesa AZ Casino cash: $10015665	less 3 and outs would help the D Suttons firing would help one hell of a lot more sorry time for another reboot,loses the coaches, keep dorsey? I dunno he ain't piloi bad, but... __________________ Psyko Tek The keyboard has been drinking,
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