Chiefs Reid/Dorsey safe for 2016. - Page 9

chiefzilla1501 · 11-03-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's their job. They get paid to polish a turd. Can't really blame team employees for that.

You can when you start doing that at the expense of looking out for the teams long term interests. I never back tanking. But the chiefs should be shopping their expensive veterans right now for draft picks. I'll be pissed if I find out we missed an opportunity to do that to save us a few wins, especially for players like Sean Smith who we know won't be here next year.

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2015, 11:50 AM

Don't get me wrong......if a team came along and offered up a 3rd or 4th round pick for Smith....I'd do it. But that's not going to happen.

And this FO is not going to start trading everyone away....especially not after the last two wins.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 11:58 AM

Playing for draft position hasn't helped in the past anyway. This draft qb wise is gonna be about the scouting direction and which one best fits what you're looking for anyway (thanks DJ) so theres no point in tanking.

They need to be trying to get Berry and the NT playing well whose name escapes me right now signed and see what Sean Smith is gonna look for, likely more than I'd pay, but I'd be interested in knowing.

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Playing for draft position hasn't helped in the past anyway. This draft qb wise is gonna be about the scouting direction and which one best fits what you're looking for anyway (thanks DJ) so theres no point in tanking.

They need to be trying to get Berry and the NT playing well whose name escapes me right now signed and see what Sean Smith is gonna look for, likely more than I'd pay, but I'd be interested in knowing.

Jaye Howard. Dude needs a contract right now.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 01:30 PM

I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when.

So if they wanna push it in and try and win out this year, fine, do it.

More than anything they need to establish the culture thag losing isn't ok.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when.

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

Oh, but we have...

KCTitus · 11-03-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.

I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

Discuss Thrower · 11-03-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

Team is on path to get somewhere close to 8-8 and will probably finish the year with like a 6-4 run. The narrative is all but set for "Just a few key additions and some good drafting, and this is easily a team that can go deep in the playoffs."

We're in the middle of rehashing the 2004 season.

Because Chiefs.

O.city · 11-03-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...

The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

**Rausch** · 11-03-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...

O.city · 11-03-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...

I'm shocked that when we face a defense playing at an all time great level, everything doesn't "work".

Sometimes I think in reality, some people are just morons.

RunKC · 11-03-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

Why have we started off poorly the last 2 years and lost to terrible teams with shitty QB's?

Andy Reid

O.city · 11-03-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Why have we started off poorly the last 2 years and lost to terrible teams with shitty QB's?

Andy Reid

What shitty QB's have we lost to this year?

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-715936	Playing for draft position hasn't helped in the past anyway. This draft qb wise is gonna be about the scouting direction and which one best fits what you're looking for anyway (thanks DJ) so theres no point in tanking. They need to be trying to get Berry and the NT playing well whose name escapes me right now signed and see what Sean Smith is gonna look for, likely more than I'd pay, but I'd be interested in knowing.
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11-03-2015, 01:30 PM	#5
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-715936	I used to be against it, but I think there's something to be said about building a winning culture throughout the organization. I think it's more important than draft position and or who you draft where and when. So if they wanna push it in and try and win out this year, fine, do it. More than anything they need to establish the culture thag losing isn't ok.
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