Browns looking to trade Alex Mack and Joe Thomas

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by -King-

The offensive line has given up 30+ sacks in 8 games. THAT. IS. A. PROBLEM.


Why are people trying to act like the offensive line is good or even average and that it's just Alex bringing them down? This is just idiotic.

The poor OL performance is a function of both poor OL play and a QB who doesn't make his OL better. If you give Alex 2-3 more seconds to throw, do you think that's going to get him out of the habit of throwing to his checkdowns? He'll be the same damn QB but he'll take less sacks.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The poor OL performance is a function of both poor OL play and a QB who doesn't make his OL better. If you give Alex 2-3 more seconds to throw, do you think that's going to get him out of the habit of throwing to his checkdowns? He'll be the same damn QB but he'll take less sacks.

I'd love an offense that took less stats. Taking less stats is EXTREMELY beneficial for having good drives you know.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd love an offense that took less stats. Taking less stats is EXTREMELY beneficial for having good drives you know.

I've made it pretty damn simple. I have two demands for Alex Smith, but now I'll add a third.

Convert third downs
Close games
And now my third... throw into the ****ing end zone

If you take less sacks but can't do any of those things, what ****ing good does it do? When Smith has all the time in the world, he still throws 2 yards on 3rd and 8. Alex Smith has had impressive comebacks where he plays aggressive, then becomes a different QB on the last drive and turtles up. Alex Smith has been decently impressive this year between the 20's then won't throw a single pass into the end zone.

So no, taking away a few sacks when the above is the big part of the problem, puts lipstick on the pig.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've made it pretty damn simple. I have two demands for Alex Smith, but now I'll add a third.

Convert third downs
Close games
And now my third... throw into the ****ing end zone

If you take less sacks but can't do any of those things, what ****ing good does it do? When Smith has all the time in the world, he still throws 2 yards on 3rd and 8. Alex Smith has had impressive comebacks where he plays aggressive, then becomes a different QB on the last drive and turtles up. Alex Smith has been decently impressive this year between the 20's then won't throw a single pass into the end zone.

So no, taking away a few sacks when the above is the big part of the problem, puts lipstick on the pig.

**** you and your demands

If you're convinced he'll never be better, not matter how good the rest of the team is, AND you're convinced that the team sucks in other phases and areas simply because he's holding them back, AND you're convinced he'll never be better so there's not use in improving the team to see, **** your demands. You get to watch, the end.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

**** you and your demands

If you're convinced he'll never be better, not matter how good the rest of the team is, AND you're convinced that the team sucks in other phases and areas simply because he's holding them back, AND you're convinced he'll never be better so there's not use in improving the team to see, **** your demands. You get to watch, the end.

In a perfect world where you had unlimited payroll, sure. But if the Chiefs are going to stubbornly stick with Alex Smith, then I'd rather find ways for the defense to win games for him vs. giving him weapons he has no idea how to deal with.