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Old 11-01-2015, 05:28 PM   #1
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The team can't afford to trade picks for old veterans. Too many depth issues on defense.
I wonder whats more important.. A defensive depth player, who can MAYBE start 3-4 years down the road, or a hall of fame LT who WILL help fix our largest hole for the next 3-4 years?

Fixing a 60 sack season Offensive line is more important than a defensive depth player.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:32 PM   #2
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I wonder whats more important.. A defensive depth player, who can MAYBE start 3-4 years down the road, or a hall of fame LT who WILL help fix our largest hole for the next 3-4 years?

Fixing a 60 sack season Offensive line is more important than a defensive depth player.
Alex Smith is going to take a ton of sacks, regardless how well the O-Line blocks for him.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:33 PM   #3
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Alex Smith is going to take a ton of sacks, regardless how well the O-Line blocks for him.
And if he doesn't take a sack, what happens if he has more time?
He's still going to go to the checkdown. Especially in the red zone.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:34 PM   #4
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And if he doesn't take a sack, what happens if he has more time?
He's still going to go to the checkdown. Especially in the red zone.
Don't agree with that.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:42 PM   #5
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Don't agree with that.
A new OL isn't going to make Alex more aggressive. His style will always be to stare down a primary read and only throw if the guy is wide open. If that's not available either check down or run the ball with no intention of throwing on the run. Buying him more time will limit the sacks which is good, but it's not going to stop Alex from being Alex. The only thing I've seen that changes Alex is the quality of the defense. When the defense sucks, Alex attacks. When the defense plays well, he goes into a shell.
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:02 PM   #6
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A new OL isn't going to make Alex more aggressive. His style will always be to stare down a primary read and only throw if the guy is wide open. If that's not available either check down or run the ball with no intention of throwing on the run. Buying him more time will limit the sacks which is good, but it's not going to stop Alex from being Alex. The only thing I've seen that changes Alex is the quality of the defense. When the defense sucks, Alex attacks. When the defense plays well, he goes into a shell.
He's had more time the last two weeks, and he has been more aggressive downfield.
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:07 PM   #7
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He's had more time the last two weeks, and he has been more aggressive downfield.
I don't care about being more aggressive downfield as much as I am him being more aggressive in general. We have a huge short field problem and that's because Alex won't throw into tight spots. We have a huge third down problem... some of that is drops, but we still see our QB throw well short of the sticks in most cases.

If we don't fix these problems, we aien't beating good teams. Hell, I thought Alex played brilliant against CIncy between the 20's. But he was absolutely terrible in scoring range. And the tough part we all see is, when this team is up or down by 14 points, we see Alex make the throws we wish he'd make in close games.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:35 PM   #8
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Alex Smith is going to take a ton of sacks, regardless how well the O-Line blocks for him.
Thats true. I'm just trying to figure out how Discuss thrower thinks.
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Thats true. I'm just trying to figure out how Discuss thrower thinks.
The team isn't good enough to win now. Period.

They need two if not three new starting linebackers beyond the problem of just being shallow roster in general.

The Seahawks model shows you need a minimum of four years of drafting to field a balanced competitive roster. At best the Chiefs are two years away from that -and that's assuming you include the UDFA guys that have been picked up as draft picks.

Don't fall for the okeydoke that the team beating Houston, the Roethlisberger-less Steelers and the dumpster fire that is the Detroit Lions.

A rebuild is inevitable, and trading picks for vets hinders the rebuilding effort.
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The team isn't good enough to win now. Period.

They need two if not three new starting linebackers beyond the problem of just being shallow roster in general.

The Seahawks model shows you need a minimum of four years of drafting to field a balanced competitive roster. At best the Chiefs are two years away from that -and that's assuming you include the UDFA guys that have been picked up as draft picks.

Don't fall for the okeydoke that the team beating Houston, the Roethlisberger-less Steelers and the dumpster fire that is the Detroit Lions.

A rebuild is inevitable, and trading picks for vets hinders the rebuilding effort.
You act like spending a not Day 1 draft pick for a HoF player keeps them from acquiring young players.

God shut up.
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You act like spending a not Day 1 draft pick for a HoF player keeps them from acquiring young players.

God shut up.
It sure can. If you put enough make-up on the pig that the Chiefs refuse to acknowledge the problem.

Making these trades would be awesome. But if it buys Alex Smith security to keep doing what he's doing, then **** that. The only reason people here are nervous is because it's been the Chiefs way to do it this way.
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It sure can. If you put enough make-up on the pig that the Chiefs refuse to acknowledge the problem.

Making these trades would be awesome. But if it buys Alex Smith security to keep doing what he's doing, then **** that. The only reason people here are nervous is because it's been the Chiefs way to do it this way.
I don't think trading for Thomas means they are handcuffed to Alex

A LT will not make up their minds.

This isn't also the Vermeil era you dolts. Doing a trade here and there for a great ass player is what smart teams do.

Trading for all your talent is when shit goes bad.
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You act like spending a not Day 1 draft pick for a HoF player keeps them from acquiring young players.

God shut up.
The worst part to me.... It's not like he said that we might have an off chance at finding a Jared Allen, or a Joe Horn(minus the trade). He said we can't trade for him because we need that pick for a defensive depth player.
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