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Old 11-04-2015, 08:29 AM   #1
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Fans waving flags isn't the same as fans cheering until a qbs ears bleed.

I can't believe cities don't speak up about the bullshit practice of replacing home games. It may not matter to Clark hunt. But it sure as hell matters to a bar or hotel owner that loses 1/8 of their nfl games.

Another example of the nfl putting money above the fans.
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The cities should be pissed, especially considering the amount of tax dollars they pour into these clubs. Every home game is a windfall for Jackson County and they got screwed out of their revenue.
It's tantamount to theft, IMO. Every lost home game is money out of the pockets of working class folk in the service industry & food out of the mouths of their children. If a pro sports organization is partly publicly funded in any significant capacity then they have an obligation, in my opinion, to play as many home games as they are allowed. Entire economies spring up around that public funding, and its the lower rungs on the ladder that get hit hardest when a home game is lost.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:14 AM   #2
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It's tantamount to theft, IMO. Every lost home game is money out of the pockets of working class folk in the service industry & food out of the mouths of their children. If a pro sports organization is partly publicly funded in any significant capacity then they have an obligation, in my opinion, to play as many home games as they are allowed. Entire economies spring up around that public funding, and its the lower rungs on the ladder that get hit hardest when a home game is lost.
I'm waiting for one of these cities to file a lawsuit over this bullshit. I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:17 AM   #3
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I'm waiting for one of these cities to file a lawsuit over this bullshit. I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet.
Probably because the people who would need to bring forth the suit are too broke to hire legal representation??
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:18 AM   #4
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I'm waiting for one of these cities to file a lawsuit over this bullshit. I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet.
It hasn't happened yet because that would be a very absurd lawsuit. The city is not even guaranteed to keep their team past the end of their current lease, much less 8 regular season home games every year.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:49 AM   #5
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It hasn't happened yet because that would be a very absurd lawsuit. The city is not even guaranteed to keep their team past the end of their current lease, much less 8 regular season home games every year.
So it's just another example of cities being held hostage by the team. Didn't the lease just get renewed with the renovations?
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Old 11-04-2015, 01:19 PM   #6
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So it's just another example of cities being held hostage by the team. Didn't the lease just get renewed with the renovations?
Well yes, but when a city builds a stadium, they are doing it only with the guarantee that the team remains in the city for X years. There is no guarantee of 8 games a year played in that stadium.

If you don't like it, fine. Don't build/renovate your stadium, and lose your team to a city that will.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:33 PM   #7
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Well yes, but when a city builds a stadium, they are doing it only with the guarantee that the team remains in the city for X years. There is no guarantee of 8 games a year played in that stadium.
Well they're pretty stupid for not writing that into the lease, and apparently the Bengals old lease was written that way.

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If you don't like it, fine. Don't build/renovate your stadium, and lose your team to a city that will.
And that's what I meant when I said "held hostage". Then again, I don't think the list of cities that are ready to poach a team is really all that long.
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Old 11-04-2015, 11:03 AM   #8
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It hasn't happened yet because that would be a very absurd lawsuit. The city is not even guaranteed to keep their team past the end of their current lease, much less 8 regular season home games every year.
There are teams with leases that require them to play their home games at the specific stadium, so a lawsuit wouldn't be absurd at all. In fact, when the Bengals signed their new lease, it specifically allowed for them to play two 'home' games elsewhere in any 5 year period, in order to avoid any problems.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...nal-home-games

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Old 11-04-2015, 12:28 PM   #9
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There are teams with leases that require them to play their home games at the specific stadium, so a lawsuit wouldn't be absurd at all. In fact, when the Bengals signed their new lease, it specifically allowed for them to play two 'home' games elsewhere in any 5 year period, in order to avoid any problems.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...nal-home-games

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mes-in-london/
Interesting. Probably means Clark gave some sort of concession to the county the last time the lease was renewed in order to be able to do this.
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