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'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

Key Recruits:

2016 Class:

Spoiler!

Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

DJ's left nut · 11-10-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Ted Bridis ✔ @tbridis
Mizzou journalism faculty voting to remove Click's status, call her acts 'clear violation of 1st Amendment rights' http://www.columbiamissourian.com/ne...5cacea580.html …
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Eh - that's a nothing maneuver. She doesn't work for the J School; she's in Communications (the folks that can't get into the J School).

Wofle gives a poorly worded response to an ambush question in a parking lot and then doesn't leap out of his car to address a group of people who have stopped traffic during the homecoming parade - fired. A Comm professor threatens violence against a student (screw the journalist angle - she threated a goddamn student) and she'll probably just get a censure.

Sully · 11-10-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So this guy was probably my favorite professor on campus - just a brilliant, brilliant guy:

http://truthonthemarket.com/2015/11/...zzou-students/

As he's almost certainly a better lawyer in his sleep than I am on my best days, it's not terribly surprising that a throwaway blog post of his does a better job succinctly stating some of the points I've been trying to make here.

And hey, Reaper - he's a gay guy so you can even read what he says without dismissing him! Isn't that exciting?

Good read.

duncan_idaho · 11-10-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So this guy was probably my favorite professor on campus - just a brilliant, brilliant guy:

http://truthonthemarket.com/2015/11/...zzou-students/

As he's almost certainly a better lawyer in his sleep than I am on my best days, it's not terribly surprising that a throwaway blog post of his does a better job succinctly stating some of the points I've been trying to make here.

And hey, Reaper - he's a gay guy so you can even read what he says without dismissing him! Isn't that exciting?

Lambert is the man. Also my wife's favorite law professor. Everyone loves that guy (even people who have gone into state politics and adopt stances that indicate they should hate him).

patteeu · 11-10-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So this guy was probably my favorite professor on campus - just a brilliant, brilliant guy:

http://truthonthemarket.com/2015/11/...zzou-students/

As he's almost certainly a better lawyer in his sleep than I am on my best days, it's not terribly surprising that a throwaway blog post of his does a better job succinctly stating some of the points I've been trying to make here.

And hey, Reaper - he's a gay guy so you can even read what he says without dismissing him! Isn't that exciting?

Excellent blog post.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Lambert is the man. Also my wife's favorite law professor. Everyone loves that guy (even people who have gone into state politics and adopt stances that indicate they should hate him).

This is pure bullshit. I expect better from a Mizzou educated man.

DJ's left nut · 11-10-2015, 04:31 PM

Hey remember that time I said I'd like to see some evidence of institutional racism?

How 'bout a little evidence of one of those racist incidents?

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/10/...-a-giant-hoax/

So activists have been using a photograph that purports to prove that the poop swastika thing occurred....a photograph that was taken a year before the alleged incident. No other photographs even exist and all evidence of it came from a flyer.

As 'hands up, don't shoot' has proven, it doesn't take much more than one or two people for a completely make believe story to become 'what happened'.

We'll see if any actual evidence turns up, but this is why I don't adhere to Reapers 'well they say it happened to clearly it happened' school of thought.

DJ's left nut · 11-10-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Lambert is the man. Also my wife's favorite law professor. Everyone loves that guy (even people who have gone into state politics and adopt stances that indicate they should hate him).

I'm presuming you're referring to Mr. Haahr.

In either event, that's a fairly low blow. I only knew Elijah in passing but it's fair to say that he's not 'hated' anyone he's ever known and it's fairly shitty invective like that that gets in the way.

**Reaper16** · 11-10-2015, 04:40 PM

But no, asking Wolfe to admit that his privileges contributed to his inaction & dismissal of student concerns is what's truly batty here.

vailpass · 11-10-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

But no, asking Wolfe to admit that his privileges contributed to his inaction & dismissal of student concerns is what's truly batty here.

Perhaps you'd be more tolerant of his position if he would have worn a dress...

**Bowser** · 11-10-2015, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

But no, asking Wolfe to admit that his privileges contributed to his inaction & dismissal of student concerns is what's truly batty here.

Maybe he was just a detached dick that paid no attention to happenings on campus, be it good or bad for students of all ethnicities? That doesn't make him a racist or a man suffering from "white privilege", it just makes him an asshole that obviously shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. JMO.

patteeu · 11-10-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe he was just a detached dick that paid no attention to happenings on campus, be it good or bad for students of all ethnicities? That doesn't make him a racist or a man suffering from "white privilege", it just makes him an asshole that obviously shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. JMO.

All white people benefit from white privilege no matter how down with the cause you are. Don't you get it? It's in the skin, man.

**Bowser** · 11-10-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe he was just a detached dick that paid no attention to happenings on campus, be it good or bad for students of all ethnicities? That doesn't make him a racist or a man suffering from "white privilege", it just makes him an asshole that obviously shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. JMO.

And to be fair, maybe he really was all those things. It's hard fighting through emotion, particularly racially unjust emotion, to find the real story sometimes. Someone was making the comparison to Wolfe running Mizzou like a big business, so that's what prompted my post above.

**Bowser** · 11-10-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

All white people benefit from white privilege no matter how down with the cause you are. Don't you get it? It's in the skin, man.

This is the best news I've heard all day. Do I have to mail in a claim to start collecting the benefits? I'd like to get that ball rolling!

**Reaper16** · 11-10-2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe he was just a detached dick that paid no attention to happenings on campus, be it good or bad for students of all ethnicities? That doesn't make him a racist or a man suffering from "white privilege", it just makes him an asshole that obviously shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. JMO.

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Originally Posted by Bowser

And to be fair, maybe he really was all those things. It's hard fighting through emotion, particularly racially unjust emotion, to find the real story sometimes. Someone was making the comparison to Wolfe running Mizzou like a big business, so that's what prompted my post above.

Certainly possible. However his definition of systemic oppression being when "you don’t believe that you have the equal opportunity for success" is very indicative to me of the man's white privilege blinding him to the felt realities of what it feels like to live under these conditions we collectively call oppression.

I think its important too that, in dialogues about race, white folks stop seeing words like "racist" or "privilege" as these harsh, damning things. They aren't. if someone says something that upholds or reinforces the systems that create & enable racial inequalities, well, that's by definition a racist speech act. Doesn't mean that the person is A Racist. It means that they said something that embodies a structural inequality, and strengthens it because of who said it. To admit one's privileges in life is simply to be aware of how you benefit, by choice or not, from the structures of society that enable & create inequalities.

In other words, you can act in racist ways without harboring prejudice. You can be racist in a given moment without being bigoted. Your unexamined privilege could cause you to act or think in such a way that is hurtful or erasing towards the experiences of others, while never intending to be so.

vailpass · 11-10-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Certainly possible. However his definition of systemic oppression being when "you don’t believe that you have the equal opportunity for success" is very indicative to me of the man's white privilege blinding him to the felt realities of what it feels like to live under these conditions we collectively call oppression.

I think its important too that, in dialogues about race, white folks stop seeing words like "racist" or "privilege" as these harsh, damning things. They aren't. if someone says something that upholds or reinforces the systems that create & enable racial inequalities, well, that's by definition a racist speech act. Doesn't mean that the person is A Racist. It means that they said something that embodies a structural inequality, and strengthens it because of who said it. To admit one's privileges in life is simply to be aware of how you benefit, by choice or not, from the structures of society that enable & create inequalities.

In other words, you can act in racist ways without harboring prejudice. You can be racist in a given moment without being bigoted. Your unexamined privilege could cause you to act or think in such a way that is hurtful or erasing towards the experiences of others, while never intending to be so.

Oh for Christ sake, toughen up.

DJ's left nut · 11-10-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

But no, asking Wolfe to admit that his privileges contributed to his inaction & dismissal of student concerns is what's truly batty here.

"Acknowledge his white male privilege' his a hell of a lot less benign than you're re-casting it.

And yes, it's batshit.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-910901	Hey remember that time I said I'd like to see some evidence of institutional racism? How 'bout a little evidence of one of those racist incidents? http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/10/...-a-giant-hoax/ So activists have been using a photograph that purports to prove that the poop swastika thing occurred....a photograph that was taken a year before the alleged incident. No other photographs even exist and all evidence of it came from a flyer. As 'hands up, don't shoot' has proven, it doesn't take much more than one or two people for a completely make believe story to become 'what happened'. We'll see if any actual evidence turns up, but this is why I don't adhere to Reapers 'well they say it happened to clearly it happened' school of thought. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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