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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
![]() Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB. In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title. Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore. We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa. Now, let's talk about the offseason: LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully). First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts. Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things. If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc. I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk. Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth? Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years. Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list). Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period. The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer. I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be: 1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160). Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura) 2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016. Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell. After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart. 3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season. 4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time. And, as always, here are the Prospects: Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
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Well that didn't post right from phone.
Rosenthal tweeted looking like Boston is getting serious.
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Another team trying to be the royals
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Kimbrell & Chapman is serious stuff. Bosox has always kicked our ass's.
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Beating Boston in the ALCS will be the sweetest thing ever.
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@MaxWildstein: #Royals are considering making a run at signing Gerardo Parra, according to @nickcafardo.
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Things not looking great with Gordon according to this link:
Click me! But the bright side is that the Royals are optimistic about their chances to retain Ben Zobrist's services. Losing Gordon would suck, but bringing in a Zobrist/Parra combo at not much more than Gordon would cost by himself (Zobrist and Parra can probably be had for $23-25 million total AAV, Gordon likely to be in the 18-20 range) would be a solid consolation prize. Parra isn't flashy, but he has been basically a league-average bat over the course of his career and has been a standout defender until this year. If kept to a corner OF spot, like LF, I thiink he'd do well in KC. Milwaukee kept trying to use him in CF, which is a stretch. I'm also intrigued by the South Korean OFs who are about to be posted, Ah-Seop Son and Hyun-Soo Kim. Both are all-around hitters who walk more than they K and play good D in LF. Neither has the profile of Jung-Ho Kang or Byung-Ho Park, who posted for $5 million (4 years, $11 million, for a total commitment of $16 million over 4 years with a sweetheart team option for year 5) and $12.5 million (TBD), respectively.
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Royals close to re-signing Zobrist?
http://kingsofkauffman.com/2015/11/1...x-gordon-gone/ Parra seems like a guy with a strong arm, but not necessarily a standout defender. Admittedly, I haven't seen all the metrics. So what do the Royals do with Infante, assuming Zobrist is re-signed? Trade him along with a prospect to get someone to take on his contract or eat the contract? I doubt they have him sit on the bench making that much money, and reportedly, Z-man really prefers to play second base, although I'm sure he would cover right or left for the Royals for part of the season if they asked him to. |
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He plays some LF (assuming Gordon not resigned). He plays some RF. He plays some 2B. He plays some 3B.
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Why? Play him where the biggest hole is: 2B. That creates the most value. Get Outfante out of the lineup, you can find at least some production from an OF
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He'd play 2B primarily (unless Infante hits at a good clip). But you'd still be able to use him all over. That's where his value really balloons... his ability to play a bunch of spots and give guys a day off is huge.
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Infante would just be an expensive utility guy. Ideally, we could get someone to eat half his salary (unlikely), though.
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I'd kill to acquire Josh Reddick to play RF. Great arm, great speed, low K rate, 28 years old, good teammate from reports, and 1 arb year (7-8m?). Unfortunately I doubt we have pieces anymore to do a deal like this. Almonte plus?
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Reddick would be an awesome add, and it would be interesting to see where they hit him, if acquired. I'm not sure how high his value would be, as a one-year rental, but he's certain to turn down a QO at the end of the year, so you'd need to compensate them at least with the equivalent of a sandwich pick of value. You'd think, anyway. Maybe Beane gets obsessed with a Royals player for no apparent reason (cough, cough, Brett Lawrie) and makes another bad deal.
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I'd send them Almonte for Reddick in a heartbeat.
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I would not. Almonte is the #1 SP prospect we have atm. If we have any hope of staying competitive past 2017 we really need either him or Zimmer to work out.
With Zimmer and Manaea's injury history, there was a very good reason why Almonte was considered untouchable at the deadline. |
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