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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

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Old 12-08-2015, 07:08 PM   #1216
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:11 PM   #1217
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That sucks. Oh well.


We have to remember as fans, to a lot of these guys it's just a business.

Can't blame them one bit for chasing after the most money they can get. Especially after they get a ring.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:11 PM   #1218
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:11 PM   #1219
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Should Dyson play center or right?
Wherever Cain doesn't want to play.

His potential for the numbers he may post if he build off last year like he did this previous season, are drool worthy! You want him happy and focused. He very well could be slashing MVP numbers with a bit more pop in his bat, and could be the best reason KC is a legitimate threat to be return for a 3rd time in a row to the fall classic.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:18 PM   #1220
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Adam Warren and Brendan Ryan for Castro. Probably a better deal for the Cubs.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:18 PM   #1221
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I think this is why we haven't heard anything on them being all in on one of the better outfielders. I know Parra is an option, but ehhh..
I'm not of the opinion they are that interested in the guys available vs someone already in the organization - especially when they fully expect Bubba will be there in 1 more season.

Dyson is great in my opinion - they're not going to get less from him than what they did all season long from that position at the plate. I don't honestly think you can bank on Dyson being able to stay healthy for a full 162. Maybe 2/3rds as a platoon, and I'd feel a lot better if it was more like a 50/50 platoon split.
Keep them healthy and Dyson can certainly play CF on days to spell Cain.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:19 PM   #1222
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I still like the idea of kicking the tires on Hyun Soo-Kim as an OF option. Could be a very similar player to Parra but at a discounted price (due to his Korean-ness).

Drew Stubbs remains an interesting/intriguing platoon partner for Jarrod Dyson. He had a bad 2015, but he's a god athlete who is going to be a cheap signing as a FA and has traditionally hit very well vs. LHP.

Of course, Brett Eibner might be able to provide 80-90 percent of what Stubbs can, at a fraction of the cost.
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That sucks. Oh well.


We have to remember as fans, to a lot of these guys it's just a business.

Can't blame them one bit for chasing after the most money they can get. Especially after they get a ring.
How could you not take that deal?

His former manager AND he is going to a legit team that could win a WS in the next 4 years.

He made out like a bandit, and I don't have any spite for him. He'd be a Royal next season if he didn't get grossly overpaid.

Half that contract is dead money
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It sucks, but it's perfectly understandable. I like the idea of saving the money and using it to keep the younger core of players who are just as good as Gordon and Zobrist.
What in the hell makes you think we are keeping ANYONE?

once a player becomes good they are gone

pretty standard for us
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It's not a question of if but when they win a WS now, IMO.
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