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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 12-12-2015, 11:31 AM   #1576
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Old 12-12-2015, 11:33 AM   #1577
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I don't think that's the final lineup/everyday lineup, but the 2-6 (Moustakas/Cain/Hosmer/Morales/Perez) is not bad at all.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Denard Span in LF if Gordon is not resigned. Good defense + good OBp skills are the priority there for me (which is why I like the Korean OF Kim as well, or Dexter Fowler, even). The. That LF hits 2, and Moustaksas can return to the 6 spot and bump perez down.

They don't need an amazing offense. Just league average-ish.

Add A Kazmir or Chen + a LF option who can hit second, and I consider it a good offseason.

I think we'll add another starter from Kazmir, Kennedy or the like... then an outfielder of some sort via trade... Blackmon or Cargo.
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Old 12-12-2015, 11:41 AM   #1578
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Add A Kazmir or Chen + a LF option who can hit second, and I consider it a good offseason.

Have you given up on Leake?
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:06 PM   #1580
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Have you given up on Leake?
Yeah. He seems to want to stay on the West Coast/Arizona. Have been no connections with him and KC.
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We were incredibly lucky that we went through the playoffs with a lineup that was dangerous 1-9. I think next year fans are going to struggle with the fact we'll have holes in our lineup like most normal teams do. Even Joe Buck said we were the most relentless lineup since the 98 Yankees, and that is one of the greatest teams in the history of baseball. 95 Indians were probably like that too, everybody could hit. It's just tough to build something that consistent.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:21 PM   #1582
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Umm Royals may want to just see what they could get for Herrera oe Davis....wow!

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We were incredibly lucky that we went through the playoffs with a lineup that was dangerous 1-9. I think next year fans are going to struggle with the fact we'll have holes in our lineup like most normal teams do. Even Joe Buck said we were the most relentless lineup since the 98 Yankees, and that is one of the greatest teams in the history of baseball. 95 Indians were probably like that too, everybody could hit. It's just tough to build something that consistent.
Yeah it's just frustrating - if our TV contract happened to come up last year we could sign Gordon and Zobrist no problem and be WS favorites for the next 2 years. Or if we were a big market team we could keep most of this core together, and who knows what they could do.
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Yeah it's just frustrating - if our TV contract happened to come up last year we could sign Gordon and Zobrist no problem and be WS favorites for the next 2 years. Or if we were a big market team we could keep most of this core together, and who knows what they could do.
Lets hope these low ball years pay off and the tv contract signed becomes even more ridiculous than if it were inked today. Usually I'd just assume the bubble would burst #becauseroyal - but im thinking we can retire that phrase after the last 2 magical years.
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I think the Royals are going to suck in 2018 and 2019. Which will hurt the TV deal.
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I mean, what other reason to acquire Soria if not to prepare for a Davis/Herrera-less bullpen?
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Davis and Herrera have logged a ton of heavy miles on their arms because they've pitched into the WS two years in a row. That's probably the biggest reason. I expect Ned will take it easy on them early next year. I'm afraid we'd never get enough value back for Davis. He's put up unprecedented numbers.
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Four years of Kelvin Herrera should fetch a fairly similar return as what the Astros just gave up for five years of Giles.

Have to see what's out there for Herrera, IMO, if that's the Going rate.
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