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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 01-02-2016, 05:52 PM   #2086
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Anyone who wants to dog on Jeremy and his contributions to the team over the past 3 years, obviously didn't watch much Royals beisbol. As for a Denver writer going after him now- strikes me as odd , and he probably should , respectfully, of course.
Well, remember who it was that was dogging on him. He's already admitted that he doesn't really watch the games.
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Seems like the CWS and Gordon are using each other to get what they want. Cespedes to Chicago and Gordon back to KC.
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Old 01-02-2016, 07:37 PM   #2091
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ compares two pitchers that might be signed by the Royals, Ian Kennedy and Yovani Gallardo.



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So between these two pitchers, who would be a better possibility for Kansas City?



Side Note – I’ve read where Mark Buehrle wanted to move home to St. Louis and play for the Cardinals. Could he help Kansas City and would he consider playing close to home but with the Royals?

I'd take Kennedy because I think he has better raw stuff, Eiland has a history with him, and he's got more upside, IMO. I think Kennedy could have a Volquez-like bump up in Kansas City. He's also a giant red-ass, which I kind of dig.

Gallardo' plummeting K rate makes him the secondary target here, IMO. He'd still be good for KC and be a stabilizing, consistent force in their rotation.
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:23 AM   #2092
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I'd take Kennedy because I think he has better raw stuff, Eiland has a history with him, and he's got more upside, IMO. I think Kennedy could have a Volquez-like bump up in Kansas City. He's also a giant red-ass, which I kind of dig.

Gallardo' plummeting K rate makes him the secondary target here, IMO. He'd still be good for KC and be a stabilizing, consistent force in their rotation.
Thank you. I get the feeling that people are looking at Gallardo as a much more attractive signing, but Kennedy has me more interested.

He seems cut of the same cloth of a number of Dayton type signings. It'll get 30 seconds of national attention, and he'll end up having a quiet but productive season.
I see no reason why he couldn't replicate a season similar to Edison.

That, gentleman, is a smart signing - especially for the dollars.
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I'd take Kennedy because I think he has better raw stuff, Eiland has a history with him, and he's got more upside, IMO. I think Kennedy could have a Volquez-like bump up in Kansas City. He's also a giant red-ass, which I kind of dig.

Gallardo' plummeting K rate makes him the secondary target here, IMO. He'd still be good for KC and be a stabilizing, consistent force in their rotation.
Duncan, what about Wei Yin Chen? He might cost a little more than Kennedy or Gallardo but he had a good year in 2015.

I don't believe the Royals will sign a pitcher until Gordon signs somewhere. If the Royals retain Gordon, I don't envision them giving up their only 1st round pick to sign any pitcher that was given a qualifying offer. If Gordon signs somewhere else, the Royals could afford to give up their 1st round pick because they'd have the sandwich pick due to Gordon's departure.
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Duncan, what about Wei Yin Chen? He might cost a little more than Kennedy or Gallardo but he had a good year in 2015.
I think Chen is going to cost quite a bit more, not a little more. Chen is clearly the more attractive option, but you can't look at the signing in a vacuum. Would you rather have Chen and Parra or Kennedy and Gordon?
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Thank you. I get the feeling that people are looking at Gallardo as a much more attractive signing, but Kennedy has me more interested.

He seems cut of the same cloth of a number of Dayton type signings. It'll get 30 seconds of national attention, and he'll end up having a quiet but productive season.
I see no reason why he couldn't replicate a season similar to Edison.

That, gentleman, is a smart signing - especially for the dollars.
Agreed. The K/inning that Kennedy has thrown up the last few years is enticing.
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I like Gallardo after having watched him frequently this past season. He's really just an inning eater, but he shined against the Blue Jays in the playoffs. If the money is right he'd be my choice.
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I think Chen is going to cost quite a bit more, not a little more. Chen is clearly the more attractive option, but you can't look at the signing in a vacuum. Would you rather have Chen and Parra or Kennedy and Gordon?
I don't think the Royals will end up with Kennedy AND Gordon. If they retain Gordon, they do not get the sandwich pick. Since Kennedy would cause the Royals to lose their first round draft pick, I don't see it happening. If Gordon signs elsewhere, they could give up their first for Kennedy, since they are drafting so late, and have the sandwich pick.

Also, Parra is not tied to a Qualifying Offer. The Royals could have Parra and (Chen, Gallardo, or Kennedy) and still have the sandwich pick.

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I don't think the Royals will end up with Kennedy AND Gordon. If they retain Gordon, they do not get the sandwich pick. Since Kennedy would cause the Royals to lose their first round draft pick, I don't see it happening. If Gordon signs elsewhere, they could give up their first for Kennedy, since they are drafting so late, and have the sandwich pick.

Also, Parra is not tied to a Qualifying Offer. The Royals could have Parra and (Chen, Gallardo, or Kennedy) and still have the sandwich pick.
The names could change. My point was that Chen is probably the most expensive pitcher on the market, and bringing on Chen would mean going much cheaper in the OF. Keeping Gordon means we go cheaper at P.
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The names could change. My point was that Chen is probably the most expensive pitcher on the market, and bringing on Chen would mean going much cheaper in the OF. Keeping Gordon means we go cheaper at P.
I agree with your point. Chen will cost more which would affect the amount you can pay an OF.
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