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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 01-06-2016, 09:21 AM   #2161
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:22 AM   #2162
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Disagree. They can't afford both. Zobrist is much older and he got overpaid by the Cubs.
it's def. arguable. Just loved Zobrist though - such a no nonsense producer in post-season.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:22 AM   #2163
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:24 AM   #2164
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Good job Royals. Good job Alex.
I'm also happy with the re-signing - not trying to negative Nancy you all. Heck Gordon won a few games too in PS and toward the end of the season.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:24 AM   #2165
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:25 AM   #2166
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:26 AM   #2167
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FanGraphs is projecting 1 WAR=$7 million? Isn't that down from a year ago?

I'd been thinking that figure bumped to $10 million/WAR this offseason.

Either way, I like this deal and think KC gets at least neutral value from the deal.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:26 AM   #2168
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I'm also happy with the re-signing - not trying to negative Nancy you all. Heck Gordon won a few games too in PS and toward the end of the season.
His bomb off Familia was unreal.
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I would say it's worse news that they couldn't retain Zobrist than it is good news that Gordon re-signed.
You're wrong.
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Another big free agent appears to be off the market, as Alex Gordon has agreed to a four-year, $72 million deal to return to the Kansas City Royals, a source told ESPN's Buster Olney.

The deal, which is pending a physical, was first reported by MLB.com.

Multiple teams had been linked to Gordon, who last season helped lead the Royals to their first World Series title since 1985.

Gordon played in only 109 games last season due to injuries, batting .271 with 13 homers and 48 RBIs. He is a .269 hitter with a .783 OPS in nine seasons, all with the Royals.

Gordon hit just .241 with two home runs in the postseason, but the latter home run rescued the Kansas City Royals from a likely defeat in the opening game of the World Series. Gordon tied the score in the ninth inning of Game 1 off New York Mets All-Star closer Jeurys Familia made Eric Hosmer's 14th-inning walk-off sacrifice fly, and a 1-0 series lead, possible.

The three-time All Star is considered one of the best defensive left fielders in the game, having won four Gold Gloves.

On Nov. 4, Gordon declined his 2016 player option, worth $13.75 million with postseason escalators included, to test free agency for the first time before his age-32 season. Gordon signed a four-year $37.5 million contract before the 2012 season.

Gordon had been one of the top free-agent outfielders, along with Yoenis Cespedes, who is still available. Other big names out there are first baseman Chris Davis, outfielders Justin Upton and Dexter Fowler and left-hander Wei-Yin Chen.
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FanGraphs is projecting 1 WAR=$7 million? Isn't that down from a year ago?

I'd been thinking that figure bumped to $10 million/WAR this offseason.

Either way, I like this deal and think KC gets at least neutral value from the deal.
Looking like its $8.4M now.


I'm indifferent. He's entering decline phase no question and he was never a great hitter. But we have $30M to spend and glaring holes in both corner OF. If he even has 1 AS caliber year he's paid off half. And they're getting ready to move him to 1B in two years anyway so he should be able to squeeze out value in yrs 3+4.
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