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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
![]() Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB. In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title. Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore. We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa. Now, let's talk about the offseason: LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully). First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts. Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things. If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc. I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk. Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth? Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years. Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list). Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period. The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer. I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be: 1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160). Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura) 2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016. Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell. After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart. 3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season. 4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time. And, as always, here are the Prospects: Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
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Jays are going to let Bautista walk, then leak steroid evidence.
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Bautista is going to be 36 years old at the end of this season. I'd be curious to see what he thinks he's going to get. Now that their GM is Shapiro I can't imagine they'd give him a huge 4 or 5 year deal.
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Awesome job, Lew!
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Any other way?
Some things never change.
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Wonder if he was this much of a db when he was a nobody
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Yeah, he has to stay in the AL. Who is going to pay huge money for his age 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 seasons? I guess maybe he thinks the Red Sox will slide him into that Big Papi role and DH him, but finding an AL team that will spend on him won't be easy. Yankees: probably out as they load up for the 2018 class, when they will spend all the moneys. Angels: Up against the salary cap and already have the DH slot filled for the next several years. Rangers: Up against their spending limits. Orioles: just committed to Chris Davis - out. Tigers: With Cabrera and Martinez, no room at 1B or DH. Also have the corner spots filled. It'll be the Red Sox, if they're even interested (and honestly, I think they're better off building around Bogaerts, Betts, Castillo, Moncada, etc) and the Jays. And no one else.
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Looks like the Blue Jays are close to acquiring Jay Bruce from the Reds.
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@Buster_ESPN: Sources: There is doubt among those involved in the Jay Bruce talks that the deal will be completed.
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Sweet redemption! An unforeseen criticism as a result of supporting a world champion.
My son wore his Hosmer t-shirt to middle school yesterday (north Texas). Some classmates accused him of being a bandwagon fan. Delicious!
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Welcome to my life. I was in a grocery store in Jefferson City proudly wearing my Crown Town hoodie & the sacker(teenager) asked how long I've been a Royals fan. I told him longer than you've been alive & told him my first game I attended was in 1970 & my favorites were Amos Otis, Paul Schaal & Cookie Rojas. He just said he's noticed a lot more Royals stuff since they won. I told him I've always wore my KC hat but as a Royals fan we hadn't had much to cheer about until the last few years. He said I wasn't a bandwagon fan then. He said most Royals fans are bandwagon. I told him I hope the Cards would still have fans after 20 years of misery. He laughed & said the Cards will never suck like the Royals. It's brutal down here.
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Yeah. I've had to shut the same fellow Mizzou fan up at football games each of the past two years. Talking about "shiny new Royals cap"... Pointed out that when you want one that has the World Series badge on it, you kind need to buy a new one. And that I have two shiny new ones that sit next to a pretty beat up that is identical.
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I'm old enough to remember when buying gear wasn't a mandatory requirement for going to the games. I actually think a grown man wearing a jersey of someone else is kind of silly. But that's the times we live in, so I do it.
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Just buy a generic jersey. That's what I have. Even then, it's not like you have to wear it to the games. You can always wear a Royals shirt.
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