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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 02-25-2016, 10:58 AM   #3196
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:14 AM   #3197
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MLB and MLBPA have agreed on a new slide rule into second base. The baserunner going to 2nd must follow these 4 rules:

1) You have to slide before reaching the base

2) You have to slide in a way that you are able to, and attempt to reach the base

3) You have to slide in a way that you are able to, and attempt to stay on the base

4) You can't alter your path to the base

As long as the runner does those 4 things, he can legally take out the 2nd baseman, but obviously this rule makes it easier for the 2nd baseman to avoid the takeout slide.

edit: this play will also be reviewable.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:17 AM   #3198
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Davis vs Gordon is a wash.

Gallardo vs Kennedy to the Orioles but I would put it as a lean towards Gallardo because he's always been up and down. Kennedy gets to work with the Royals D now as well along with his K rate.

Fowler vs Soria to the Orioles too, however they are both filling separate needs there. The Orioles OF would have been Adam Jones and 2 JAGs, at best, and Fowler helps a lot there. The Royals wanted another arm to replace Greg Holland, Soria doesn't replace Holland's production, who does really?, but Fowler is the better player.

I'll say Orioles win but if Gallardo goes back to being terrible and Soria steps into the Royals bullpen monster and produces then that can swing the other way.

Looking at the contracts, it appears you could have both Fowler + Gallardo for Gordon. I'm not sure which is better. Last year they produced 5.7 WAR vs Gordon 2.8 (obv due to injury). Steamer projects 3.4 vs 3.8 for Gordon.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:30 AM   #3199
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How about instead of having to throw four pitches for an intentional walk, the fielding team's manager takes a step out of the the dugout and gives a hand signal to the home plate umpire?
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Looking at the contracts, it appears you could have both Fowler + Gallardo for Gordon. I'm not sure which is better. Last year they produced 5.7 WAR vs Gordon 2.8 (obv due to injury). Steamer projects 3.4 vs 3.8 for Gordon.
Don't forget to subtract the WAR for whoever Gallardo would be pitching instead of in the rotation.
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How about instead of having to throw four pitches for an intentional walk, the fielding team's manager takes a step out of the the dugout and gives a hand signal to the home plate umpire?
That'll never work, it makes too much sense.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:37 AM   #3202
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Orioles: Davis/Gallardo/Fowler = 12/216 (18 per)
Royals: Gordon/Kennedy/Soria = 12/169 (14)


(Orioles deferred 1/4 of Davis' deal and claim it's only 127 present value. This would take the Os AAV above from 18M to 16 per year)
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Resigning Fowler confuses the **** out of me. This means one of 2 things, say bye bye to Soler or Schwarber will be catching. I guess they could also platoon Schwarber and Soler in LF but that would be pretty weird.

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Davis vs Gordon is a wash.



Gallardo vs Kennedy to the Orioles but I would put it as a lean towards Gallardo because he's always been up and down. Kennedy gets to work with the Royals D now as well along with his K rate.



Fowler vs Soria to the Orioles too, however they are both filling separate needs there. The Orioles OF would have been Adam Jones and 2 JAGs, at best, and Fowler helps a lot there. The Royals wanted another arm to replace Greg Holland, Soria doesn't replace Holland's production, who does really?, but Fowler is the better player.



I'll say Orioles win but if Gallardo goes back to being terrible and Soria steps into the Royals bullpen monster and produces then that can swing the other way.

I'm confident Kennedy is going to be a better player for KC than Gallardo will for Baltimore. Gallardo is cheaper and has fewer years on his deal, so there's less risk that way, but he also seems to be a much larger injury risk than Kennedy to me (declining K and help rates might indicate something is about to pop).

There's also a sizable gap in the draft pick sacrificed: No. 14 vs No. 24 pick.

Davis is a better offensive player than Gordon, but he has a smaller track record of performance. I think he's got more risk because the deal is bigger and he doesn't add as much value all-around as Gordon does. Both will age well, IMO.
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Looking at the contracts, it appears you could have both Fowler + Gallardo for Gordon. I'm not sure which is better. Last year they produced 5.7 WAR vs Gordon 2.8 (obv due to injury). Steamer projects 3.4 vs 3.8 for Gordon.
Fowler didn't sign with the O's.
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