Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[New World Order]

The AFC Championship game featured 2 cheating franchises.

It will forever be known as "Cheater Bowl 2015"

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

i don't think it deserves suspension when most qbs are on the record of altering balls. Let alone.. the ball naturally alters throughout the game and it's just preference for the QB..

The coverup

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

i don't think it deserves suspension when most qbs are on the record of altering balls. Let alone.. the ball naturally alters throughout the game and it's just preference for the QB..

*the only advantage i see is fumbling issue.

If there wasn't an advantage he wouldn't have been part of it.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

If there wasn't an advantage he wouldn't have been part of it.

Game set match

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

If there wasn't an advantage he wouldn't have been part of it.

ODB's gloves is a bigger problem than air in a ball. Different air pressure doesn't make tds happen.. as shown in the colts game in itself with regulated and unregulated balls. they actually played bettter with regulated balls.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

ODB's gloves is a bigger problem than air in a ball. Different air pressure doesn't make tds happen.. as shown in the colts game in itself with regulated and unregulated balls. they actually played bettter with regulated balls.

In the thousands of posts on this topic, I don't think a single one ever made the claim that the Patriots needed to cheat to beat the Colts in the AFC championship game that year. The Patriots won a lot of games where they didn't need to cheat. That's not the issue. The issue is the games they won where they did need to cheat, starting with their stunning Super Bowl victory of the Rams that was enabled by Spygate. The Patriots knew every play the Rams were going to run that day before they ran them. That's how a very ordinary Patriots team was able to completely shut down a historically good Rams offense. By cheating. They stole the Super Bowl from the Rams that year.

When you combine that with Brady's blatant destruction of evidence when he destroyed his cell phone on the exact day that he was asked about the contents of the text messages he sent to the deflator, the picture is pretty clear.

Those of you who slobber all over Brady's cock will always be in denial, but the other 99% of NFL fans know Brady for exactly what he is: a very good quarterback who is also a lying sack of shit.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Well since it obviously was the reason for fewer fumbles, that's a problem

So much wrong.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/05/n...bill-belichick

As the controversy unfolded last winter, many looked at the Patriots’ low fumble rate and speculated that it resulted from low PSI levels in footballs. But the most recent numbers tell a different story

In any case, the 2015 season makes for an excellent out-of-sample test with respect to New England's fumble tendencies. Although the Patriots have been accused of going crazy lengths to gain a winning edge, it seems safe to assume that any suspect ball routine could not have been a part of the game-day preparation process this season. (The NFL implemented new procedures for inspecting game balls.) As a result, if one initially made the link between the Patriots low fumble rates and deflated footballs, the natural follow-up would be to assume that New England's fumble rates would revert toward the league average in 2015.
So what happened in 2015?
• The Patriots had the fewest fumbles of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had the best fumble rate of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had one of their best fumble rates of the past decade.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

So much wrong.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/05/n...bill-belichick

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

You can believe whatever you want about Deflategate, but the "theory" (bad science really) that the alleged ball deflation led to fewer fumbles (an "impossibly low rate" according to the bad science article), was pretty clearly disproven by the 2015 fumble rate the Patriots had.

But keep on hatin' on.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You can believe whatever you want about Deflategate, but the "theory" (bad science really) that the alleged ball deflation led to fewer fumbles (an "impossibly low rate" according to the bad science article), was pretty clearly disproven by the 2015 fumble rate teh Patriots had.

But keep on hatin' on.

Didn't I tell you to go away already? Yes, I did and I also told you to go post your bullshit on a Pats board. You don't even see the case for what it is now and are still talking about the stupid footballs. They were deflated by the equipment guys. That's it, and that is what the judges believe. They also think Brady is hiding something and by all rights the evidence says he is.

His suspension will be reinstated as it should. Goodell has the power and now the court will back him up. So shut your mouth.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You can believe whatever you want about Deflategate, but the "theory" (bad science really) that the alleged ball deflation led to fewer fumbles (an "impossibly low rate" according to the bad science article), was pretty clearly disproven by the 2015 fumble rate the Patriots had.

But keep on hatin' on.

How would a one season sample size where we don't even know if the Patriots cheated (although considering their history, it's probably fair to assume they did) prove anything about anything?

Damn, Boston fans are just the worst.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

How would a one season sample size where we don't even know if the Patriots cheated (although considering their history, it's probably fair to assume they did) prove anything about anything?

Damn, Boston fans are just the worst.

So....first, the science behind the original article was just bad. Many articles discussed that before the 2015 data was available.

Second, the Patriots 2015 fumble rate is basically the same as it was over the past many years. The fumble rate that the bad article said was pretty much statistically impossible.

And the NFL punished the Patriots for deflation, and started randomly testing balls across the NFL to ensure that inflation levels were legal.

And from all this you suggest (1) that one year of data is insufficient, and (2) the Patriots are probably still cheating. Somehow...

Ok. Go with that.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Didn't I tell you to go away already? Yes, I did and I also told you to go post your bullshit on a Pats board.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

'Murican Hero!!!!11! /DC

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

So....first, the science behind the original article was just bad. Many articles discussed that before the 2015 data was available.

Second, the Patriots 2015 fumble rate is basically the same as it was over the past many years. The fumble rate that the bad article said was pretty much statistically impossible.

And the NFL punished the Patriots for deflation, and started randomly testing balls across the NFL to ensure that inflation levels were legal.

And from all this you suggest (1) that one year of data is insufficient, and (2) the Patriots are probably still cheating. Somehow...

Ok. Go with that.

Boston fans will be Boston fans, it seems. It can't be helped. None of it will make the rest of the world stop from stating the obvious about Brady/the Pats being cheaters, though.