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Old 04-14-2016, 07:32 AM  
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Rams trade for #1 overall pick
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#Titans receive: 2016 15th - 43, 45, 76; 2017 1st Rd and 3rd Rd

Rams receive: No. 1, 113, 177.#blockbuster
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:57 AM   #151
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Eh, it took Ryan Grigson being shitty at his job for 5 years to drive the Colts this far down. When it was just a year or two of him not giving Luck anything to work with, Luck was still able to win games.

If the Rams use their remaining picks well over the next couple of years, it won't cripple them going forward. And when they get their full allotment back it'll be right about the time the rook QB is ready to really hit the accelerator anyway. They'll be fine if this kid is good. The lack of draft picks won't be what hurts them; missing on the QB will be what does it.
It just makes the margins tougher. Gotta pay miney for players instead of the cheap picks.

For the rams at this point it makes sense though I guess.

Also gotta think once said qb really hits his stride and is ready to go, it'll be time to pay him and that's when they'll be getting picks back and loaded.

I'm just not a fan of ever trading up that much. Just my preference.
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:59 AM   #152
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when the primary goal is to sell tickets, you bet your ass it's worth it. if the goal is to win games, #fail
Yeah, I mean, they had to fear the Chargers fan base, right ?
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:01 AM   #153
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If the Rams use their remaining picks well over the next couple of years, it won't cripple them going forward. And when they get their full allotment back it'll be right about the time the rook QB is ready to really hit the accelerator anyway. They'll be fine if this kid is good. The lack of draft picks won't be what hurts them; missing on the QB will be what does it.
Exactly.

And as I mentioned earlier, look at the division: The 49ers don't have a QB and the Rams just jumped them in order to get the best guy in the draft. The Cards are hanging on by a string with a 36 year old Carson Palmer and at #31, there's no chance they get a blue chip QB.

Also, the Rams defense has gotten the better of the Seahawks in the past few seasons, which puts the Rams in a position to be the best team in the division for years to come if Wentz is who they think he is.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:03 AM   #154
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It just makes the margins tougher. Gotta pay miney for players instead of the cheap picks.

For the rams at this point it makes sense though I guess.

Also gotta think once said qb really hits his stride and is ready to go, it'll be time to pay him and that's when they'll be getting picks back and loaded.

I'm just not a fan of ever trading up that much. Just my preference.
Well, the thing to keep in mind is that not every 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick is going to be "money". There's a 50% or more bust rate with players chosen in those rounds so if they give up 3 legit starters to get a Franchise QB, it's well worth it.

Again, I'm all for building a team in the draft but without the QB, it becomes a negative return at some point, which the Rams have reached, IMO.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:06 AM   #155
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If the Chiefs were a perpetual 7-9 team without a Franchise QB, who here wouldn't give up Dee Ford, Philip Gaines and De'Anthony Thomas (2014 picks) along with Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse and Chris Conley (2015) for a Franchise QB?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:10 AM   #156
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It just makes the margins tougher. Gotta pay miney for players instead of the cheap picks.

For the rams at this point it makes sense though I guess.

Also gotta think once said qb really hits his stride and is ready to go, it'll be time to pay him and that's when they'll be getting picks back and loaded.

I'm just not a fan of ever trading up that much. Just my preference.
It's a big boy league.

Sure, we'd all love to get HoFers in the 5th round but that doesn't really happen. Everything in this league comes at some sacrifice and the Rams have chosen to make theirs to give themselves their best shot at securing the thing that has held them back since Warner left.

"Making things harder" isn't really an argument I buy - this league is hard to win in, period. This doesn't make it harder at all if Wentz/Goff turns out the be the force multiplier at QB that the Rams think he'll be.

And if he isn't, they just blow it up and start over, which is probably easier than trying to slowly drag yourself out of the middle of the pack.
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:10 AM   #157
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But are they gonna get the next Peyton Manning?
Or are they gonna get the next Ryan Leaf?

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Old 04-14-2016, 11:11 AM   #158
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!!! This shit is crazy... Look I think Wentz is going to be good. But, NOW because this trade went down I have seen a few stories pop up about how this kids is going to be the next Tom Brady/Andrew Luck......

FFS 3 months ago no one knew he existed....
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:12 AM   #159
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I don't know why you'd give up that much for those QB prospects, and with as much as they gave up, they're going to play the guy immediately. Neither one is ready.
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I don't know why you'd give up that much for those QB prospects, and with as much as they gave up, they're going to play the guy immediately. Neither one is ready.
Whomever they take (and I think it'll be Wentz) will spend the season handing off the ball to Gurley while throwing some play action passes now and then.

They'll be a team similar to the Chiefs and last year's Broncos: Conservative QB play with a strong running game and defense.

Keep in mind, the Rams had the #32 passing game and #29 overall offense and still went 7-9.

They needed to make this move.
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Do people in LA really give a shit about someone from the Bay Area? If it were UCLA or USC, I could see the "local" storyline but I doubt people in LA care about a QB from Berkley.

I'm not sure about Cali, but here in Florida Jameis Winston gets a ton of love all over for being a "hometown" kid. Tallahassee and Tampa aren't all that close.
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Whomever they take (and I think it'll be Wentz) will spend the season handing off the ball to Gurley while throwing some play action passes now and then.

They'll be a team similar to the Chiefs and last year's Broncos: Conservative QB play with a strong running game and defense.

Keep in mind, the Rams had the #32 passing game and #29 overall offense and still went 7-9.

They needed to make this move.
And they lost some good defensive pieces.....
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Old 04-14-2016, 11:24 AM   #163
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And they lost some good defensive pieces.....
They lost one: Janoris Jenkins.
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They lost one: Janoris Jenkins.
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I expect him to be gone before moving to Inglewood in 2019 but surely, it's too late into the league year to fire him now...?
Yeah I'm betting he gets one more year
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