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Old 04-17-2016, 12:13 PM   #1
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And let's assume Dorsey puts together the greatest ****ing squad that ever put on pads, Smithy is getting ready to retire, and Andrew Luck II or whomever makes you fap is sitting right there at the top.

Do you view Dorsey pulling a "Rams"?

Yeah, me neither.

He's looking for Rodgers in round two.
I don't think he should and I don't think he has to.

If we're in the top 5 pull the trigger. If we're not I don't think we need to trade the farm to move up there.

Even a can't-miss prospect like Luck is starting to regress and become a turnover machine. RGIII can't stay healthy and doesn't look that great after year 1.

If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:21 PM   #2
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I don't think he should and I don't think he has to.

If we're in the top 5 pull the trigger. If we're not I don't think we need to trade the farm to move up there.

Even a can't-miss prospect like Luck is starting to regress and become a turnover machine. RGIII can't stay healthy and doesn't look that great after year 1.

If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...
Mmm..I don't know, man. If you're going to improve the #2, you should probably be doing it in the draft, unless you're looking to augment that pick by introducing competition, which is always a good thing.

To your point, Bray doesn't seem to be providing much competition. Has that dude even cracked the legitimate roster yet?
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:28 PM   #3
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Mmm..I don't know, man. If you're going to improve the #2, you should probably be doing it in the draft, unless you're looking to augment that pick by introducing competition, which is always a good thing.

To your point, Bray doesn't seem to be providing much competition. Has that dude even cracked the legitimate roster yet?
Petty and Glennon both have top shelf arms.

Glennon has starting experience.

Both offer much better upside than Bray with none of the baggage and make QB2 money.

Bray has been an IR jockey...
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:31 PM   #4
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Petty and Glennon both have top shelf arms.

Glennon has starting experience.

Both offer much better upside than Bray with none of the baggage and make QB2 money.

Bray has been an IR jockey...
Yeah, that's not good. The dudes under Smith should be duking it out, every day, every year.
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If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...
Why would the Jets, who don't have a starting QB, trade Bryce Petty when they drafted him in the 4th last year?
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Old 04-17-2016, 01:12 PM   #6
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Why would the Jets, who don't have a starting QB, trade Bryce Petty when they drafted him in the 4th last year?
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If anything I'd look at trading a future 3rd/4th for someone like Petty or Glennon to improve that no 2 spot...
I understand that Andy loves mediocre arms and guys that can scramble but if we can trade for a guy with NFL experience who can make all the throws (without any baggage) for a mid-round pick I'd be all for it.
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Old 04-17-2016, 01:16 PM   #7
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I understand that Andy loves mediocre arms and guys that can scramble but if we can trade for a guy with NFL experience who can make all the throws (without any baggage) for a mid-round pick I'd be all for it.
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I'm not a fan of the QB crop this year.

Even less a fan of talent considered to be less than 1st round.

No one can put forth a legit argument for why Bray is even on the team other than his time here and the loss of Daniel.
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I'm not a fan of the QB crop this year.

Even less a fan of talent considered to be less than 1st round.

No one can put forth a legit argument for why Bray is even on the team other than his time here and the loss of Daniel.
You aren't impressed with his years on injured reserve?
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I'm not a fan of the QB crop this year.

Even less a fan of talent considered to be less than 1st round.

No one can put forth a legit argument for why Bray is even on the team other than his time here and the loss of Daniel.
And Andy loves mediocre arms.

Idiot.
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Didn't Murray have over 50 starts in his college career? Not bad for a guy in the SEC. If he didn't blow his knee his senior year, he could have easily gone in the second or third round, and might even have a starter's role somewhere. He's all we need at the #2 QB.
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Murray got better each year. He was thought to be a 1st round pick (possibly) before he blew out his knee.

I'd like to see what he's got at some point. Here in GA he's damn near royalty.
As I said; he's the model.
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Why would the Jets, who don't have a starting QB, trade Bryce Petty when they drafted him in the 4th last year?

I said LIKE those QB's...
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I said LIKE those QB's...
Do you know who's "like" Petty or Glennon?

Aaron Murray.

Except he was a more accomplished college QB.
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Do you know who's "like" Petty or Glennon?

Aaron Murray.
In what way?
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