Chiefs Thoughts on the 2016 draft class

O.city · 04-30-2016, 04:56 PM

Would have liked to get a day 1 guy at lg.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-30-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Would have liked to get a day 1 guy at lg.

It's pretty clear that Reid like football players from Cincinnati.

Jason Kelce was a 6th, Travis Kelce was a 3rd, Ehringer a 4th.

It's hard to dislike a smart offensive lineman that's versatile enough to play all over the line, who's SPARQ number is high and has a nasty streak.

Reid's had good luck in the past and doubting him would be foolish at this point.

O.city · 04-30-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's pretty clear that Reid like football players from Cincinnati.

Jason Kelce was a 6th, Travis Kelce was a 3rd, Ehringer a 4th.

It's hard to dislike a smart offensive lineman that's versatile enough to play all over the line, who's SPARQ number is high and has a nasty streak.

Reid's had good luck in the past and doubting him would be foolish at this point.

Hopefully he works out. Dunno if he's a day 1 starter though

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-30-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Hopefully he works out. Dunno if he's a day 1 starter though

This draft was so deep with defensive players that it pushed down offensive players by at least one round, if not two.

If Ehinger isn't a starter Day One, I'll be disappointed because his competition consists of a journeyman (Reid) and a heavy footed guard/center (Fulton).

oaklandhater · 04-30-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This draft was so deep with defensive players that it pushed down offensive players by at least one round, if not two.

If Ehinger isn't a starter Day One, I'll be disappointed because his competition consists of a journeyman (Reid) and a heavy footed guard/center (Fulton).

Techier said he will be competing for LDT and Fulton spot's on the line.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-30-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Techier said he will be competing for LDT and Fulton spot's on the line.

Okay, that makes zero sense.

LDT is the right guard. Currently, Fulton is a swing guard/center and has not been assigned a starting role.

Ehringer may compete with Fulton for the left guard position but he's not competing with LDT.

oaklandhater · 04-30-2016, 05:13 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...very-selection

Adam Teicher breaks down the 2016 Kansas City Chiefs draft class.

Round 2, Pick No. 37: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs could be losing defensive lineman Dontari Poe to free agency after next season. The addition of Jones gives the Chiefs insurance. In the meantime, the 6-foot-6, 308-pound Jones gives the Chiefs another big, capable player to plug into their defensive line rotation. The Chiefs can use Jones in a rotation that includes Poe, Allen Bailey and Jaye Howard. Jones probably won’t be a starter as a rookie but could get a lot of snaps and help keep the veteran defensive linemen fresh. The Chiefs have given their starting lineman, particularly Poe, a lot of snaps in recent seasons.

Not lacking for confidence: Asked for a scouting report on himself after being drafted by the Chiefs, Jones said, “A very dominant player. Has the ability to be a Pro Bowler. Needs to work on a few things. Could be one of the best of all time. It’s up to him." Asked what he needs to work on, Jones said, “I feel like there’s always something to get better at. When you stop getting better at something, you start losing concentration and ... you think you’re too good. So I’m always looking for ways to get better as a player and an individual."

Basketball background helps: Jones was a basketball player in high school in Houston, Mississippi. He says playing basketball helped his development as a football player. “It kind of gave me that lanky, pass-rushing mobility. In basketball, you’ve got to be (quick). I was a heck of a basketball player, too. Let me state that.’’

Round 3, Pick No. 59: KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame

My take: The Chiefs saw Russell as their last chance to get a cornerback capable of helping right away. The 5-11, 190-pound Russell was a three-year starter at Notre Dame. He’ll compete for playing time behind the starters, Marcus Peters and Phillip Gaines, and third cornerback Steven Nelson.

College career interrupted: After starting his first two seasons at Notre Dame, Russell missed all of the 2014 season. He was dismissed from the university after an academic scandal. But he was reinstated the following year and returned to play last season. His season ended a couple of games early because of a broken leg, but coach Andy Reid said Russell should be ready and available when the Chiefs start offseason practice in May.

Emotional moment: Russell broke down in tears when answering questions from Kansas City area reporters shortly after he was drafted. “Bear with me,’’ Russell said. “My mom struggled, never had much. It’s just a way out, a way out for my family. It’s a way to make my family smile, too. I was the first one to graduate high school, first one to go to college. I’ll be the first one to get my degree when I get it. This is something big. That’s why it’s so special. [Being drafted] is changing my circumstances."

Round 4, Pick No. 105: Parker Ehinger, G, Cincinnati | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs needed more depth at guard, where Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and Zach Fulton are the likely starters. Backup candidates are few, so Ehinger makes sense in that regard. He was a left tackle in college, and although he projects as a guard with the Chiefs, Ehinger could play right tackle if the need ever arises. Duvernay-Tardif and Fulton aren’t solid as the projected starters, so Ehinger could win a spot with a strong showing in offseason practice and training camp.

Round 4, Pick No. 106: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs had no position as thin as cornerback heading into the draft and they’re throwing numbers at the spot with the selection of Murray. He is the second corner drafted by the Chiefs, following Notre Dame’s KeiVarae Russell in the third round. Murray, a three-year starter, will be given a chance to compete for playing time as a rookie. Most likely, that playing time would come as a spare cornerback in passing situations.

Round 4, Pick No. 126: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida | Highlights

My take: Robinson can be viewed as a risky pick. He was suspended numerous times in college and acknowledged at the scouting combine in February he went through rehab for drug abuse when he was a freshman. But Robinson has enough talent that he can help the Chiefs. He will compete for playing time with a group of receivers that includes Chris Conley and Albert Wilson. At 6-foot-1 and 204 pounds, Robinson has the size teams like in wide receivers.

Round 5, Pick No. 162: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford | Highlights

My take: Hogan’s addition means the Chiefs will eventually be unloading one of their other developmental quarterbacks, Tyler Bray or Aaron Murray. Hogan started 46 games in college with a 36-10 record, so he has a lot of experience and has been a winner. He’ll most likely spend his rookie season as the third-string quarterback behind starter Alex Smith and the loser of the Murray-Bray roster battle.

Round 5, Pick No. 165: Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama | Highlights

My take: Hill has dynamic return skills. Chiefs scout Ryne Nutt said special teams coach Dave Toub compared Hill to Devin Hester. But Hill pleaded guilty last year to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in December 2014. He was given three years of probation. He was thrown off the team at Oklahoma State after the incident and transferred to West Alabama.

“We’ve done the research on it,’’ Nutt said. “From that, I think, (general manager John Dorsey) was comfortable enough to take the kid.

“I’ve talked with the Oklahoma (State) staff and I’ve talked with the West Alabama staff. They all like the kid. He made a mistake. I’m not going to go into the details of it but the human being is somebody they like. You talk to the kid and he’s probably more than sorry it happened. But he’s a good person. He means well.’’

Round 6, Pick No. 178: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech | Highlights

My take: Give the Chiefs credit for trying to address their numbers at cornerback. White is the third cornerback they’ve drafted, following KeiVarae Russell of Notre Dame in the third round and Eric Murray of Minnesota in the fourth. Unless they’re hit by a rash of injuries or unexpectedly part with a veteran, the Chiefs won’t be able to keep them all.

Round 6, Pick No. 203: Dadi Nicolas, DE, Virginia Tech | Highlights

My take: Nicolas is about 235 pounds, so he’s far too light to play defensive end and he’ll even have to add some weight to become an effective outside linebacker. He has some skills as a pass rusher but it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs will benefit from those skills anytime soon. He looks like he’s a practice squad candidate at best as a rookie.

Teicher's view on our draft.

BryanBusby · 04-30-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Would have liked to get a day 1 guy at lg.

The top of the Guard class was brutal. Waiting till Day 3 for a Guard was fine.

oaklandhater · 04-30-2016, 05:01 PM

Holy hell

Rasputin · 04-30-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Holy hell

Maybe he should've Belcher himself in the parking lot.

Really I think this could be PR disaster for Chiefs.

He maybe good but for the Chiefs this kind of pick should not be on their big board.

WTF

Even if he is found innocent this should have been a huge red flag to stay away from him.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-30-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Even if he is found innocent this should have been a huge red flag to stay away from him.

He's already plead guilty and is on probation until the end of 2017

Rasputin · 04-30-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's already plead guilty and is on probation until the end of 2017

Then the Chiefs should have passed on him. I'm not happy about the pick and **** Tyreek Hill.

My daughter was beat up pretty bad by her (ex) boyfriend so this really pisses me off that the Chiefs are sending a message that it's ok even after the Belcher shootings. The Chiefs of all teams should have stayed away for that reason.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-30-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Then the Chiefs should have passed on him. I'm not happy about the pick and **** Tyreek Hill.

I'm not happy about it, either, but I felt the need to provide accurate info on his status.

oaklandhater · 04-30-2016, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Then the Chiefs should have passed on him. I'm not happy about the pick and **** Tyreek Hill.

My daughter was beat up pretty bad by her (ex) boyfriend so this really pisses me off that the Chiefs are sending a message that it's ok even after the Belcher shootings. The Chiefs of all teams should have stayed away for that reason.

Sorry about your Daughter Tattoo Hope she is oaky.

I have some conflicting feelings about drafting this guy has well.

BryanBusby · 04-30-2016, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Then the Chiefs should have passed on him. I'm not happy about the pick and **** Tyreek Hill.

My daughter was beat up pretty bad by her (ex) boyfriend so this really pisses me off that the Chiefs are sending a message that it's ok even after the Belcher shootings. The Chiefs of all teams should have stayed away for that reason.

Don't blame you at all dude.

I'd kinda be willing to give him a chance if he wasn't victim blaming in a very awkward interview that was cut short. Dude is a pile of shit.

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oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5788993	http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...very-selection Adam Teicher breaks down the 2016 Kansas City Chiefs draft class. Round 2, Pick No. 37: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State \| Highlights My take: The Chiefs could be losing defensive lineman Dontari Poe to free agency after next season. The addition of Jones gives the Chiefs insurance. In the meantime, the 6-foot-6, 308-pound Jones gives the Chiefs another big, capable player to plug into their defensive line rotation. The Chiefs can use Jones in a rotation that includes Poe, Allen Bailey and Jaye Howard. Jones probably won’t be a starter as a rookie but could get a lot of snaps and help keep the veteran defensive linemen fresh. The Chiefs have given their starting lineman, particularly Poe, a lot of snaps in recent seasons. Not lacking for confidence: Asked for a scouting report on himself after being drafted by the Chiefs, Jones said, “A very dominant player. Has the ability to be a Pro Bowler. Needs to work on a few things. Could be one of the best of all time. It’s up to him." Asked what he needs to work on, Jones said, “I feel like there’s always something to get better at. When you stop getting better at something, you start losing concentration and ... you think you’re too good. So I’m always looking for ways to get better as a player and an individual." Basketball background helps: Jones was a basketball player in high school in Houston, Mississippi. He says playing basketball helped his development as a football player. “It kind of gave me that lanky, pass-rushing mobility. In basketball, you’ve got to be (quick). I was a heck of a basketball player, too. Let me state that.’’ Round 3, Pick No. 59: KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame My take: The Chiefs saw Russell as their last chance to get a cornerback capable of helping right away. The 5-11, 190-pound Russell was a three-year starter at Notre Dame. He’ll compete for playing time behind the starters, Marcus Peters and Phillip Gaines, and third cornerback Steven Nelson. College career interrupted: After starting his first two seasons at Notre Dame, Russell missed all of the 2014 season. He was dismissed from the university after an academic scandal. But he was reinstated the following year and returned to play last season. His season ended a couple of games early because of a broken leg, but coach Andy Reid said Russell should be ready and available when the Chiefs start offseason practice in May. Emotional moment: Russell broke down in tears when answering questions from Kansas City area reporters shortly after he was drafted. “Bear with me,’’ Russell said. “My mom struggled, never had much. It’s just a way out, a way out for my family. It’s a way to make my family smile, too. I was the first one to graduate high school, first one to go to college. I’ll be the first one to get my degree when I get it. This is something big. That’s why it’s so special. [Being drafted] is changing my circumstances." Round 4, Pick No. 105: Parker Ehinger, G, Cincinnati \| Highlights My take: The Chiefs needed more depth at guard, where Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and Zach Fulton are the likely starters. Backup candidates are few, so Ehinger makes sense in that regard. He was a left tackle in college, and although he projects as a guard with the Chiefs, Ehinger could play right tackle if the need ever arises. Duvernay-Tardif and Fulton aren’t solid as the projected starters, so Ehinger could win a spot with a strong showing in offseason practice and training camp. Round 4, Pick No. 106: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota \| Highlights My take: The Chiefs had no position as thin as cornerback heading into the draft and they’re throwing numbers at the spot with the selection of Murray. He is the second corner drafted by the Chiefs, following Notre Dame’s KeiVarae Russell in the third round. Murray, a three-year starter, will be given a chance to compete for playing time as a rookie. Most likely, that playing time would come as a spare cornerback in passing situations. Round 4, Pick No. 126: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida \| Highlights My take: Robinson can be viewed as a risky pick. He was suspended numerous times in college and acknowledged at the scouting combine in February he went through rehab for drug abuse when he was a freshman. But Robinson has enough talent that he can help the Chiefs. He will compete for playing time with a group of receivers that includes Chris Conley and Albert Wilson. At 6-foot-1 and 204 pounds, Robinson has the size teams like in wide receivers. Round 5, Pick No. 162: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford \| Highlights My take: Hogan’s addition means the Chiefs will eventually be unloading one of their other developmental quarterbacks, Tyler Bray or Aaron Murray. Hogan started 46 games in college with a 36-10 record, so he has a lot of experience and has been a winner. He’ll most likely spend his rookie season as the third-string quarterback behind starter Alex Smith and the loser of the Murray-Bray roster battle. Round 5, Pick No. 165: Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama \| Highlights My take: Hill has dynamic return skills. Chiefs scout Ryne Nutt said special teams coach Dave Toub compared Hill to Devin Hester. But Hill pleaded guilty last year to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in December 2014. He was given three years of probation. He was thrown off the team at Oklahoma State after the incident and transferred to West Alabama. “We’ve done the research on it,’’ Nutt said. “From that, I think, (general manager John Dorsey) was comfortable enough to take the kid. “I’ve talked with the Oklahoma (State) staff and I’ve talked with the West Alabama staff. They all like the kid. He made a mistake. I’m not going to go into the details of it but the human being is somebody they like. You talk to the kid and he’s probably more than sorry it happened. But he’s a good person. He means well.’’ Round 6, Pick No. 178: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech \| Highlights My take: Give the Chiefs credit for trying to address their numbers at cornerback. White is the third cornerback they’ve drafted, following KeiVarae Russell of Notre Dame in the third round and Eric Murray of Minnesota in the fourth. Unless they’re hit by a rash of injuries or unexpectedly part with a veteran, the Chiefs won’t be able to keep them all. Round 6, Pick No. 203: Dadi Nicolas, DE, Virginia Tech \| Highlights My take: Nicolas is about 235 pounds, so he’s far too light to play defensive end and he’ll even have to add some weight to become an effective outside linebacker. He has some skills as a pass rusher but it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs will benefit from those skills anytime soon. He looks like he’s a practice squad candidate at best as a rookie. Teicher's view on our draft.
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