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Old 05-29-2016, 07:40 AM   #1
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I forgot to include the 20 poplar trees that are to be a curtain between us and a hated neighbor.
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:56 PM   #2
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I forgot to include the 20 poplar trees that are to be a curtain between us and a hated neighbor.
A hated neighbor? All the way to the retirement destination and you have a hated neighbor?

That sucks Ed.
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:11 PM   #3
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A hated neighbor? All the way to the retirement destination and you have a hated neighbor?

That sucks Ed.
Yes sir, I made the mistake of trying to be peacemaker in a feud. Had wonderful neighbors everywhere we have lived.

This old bastard retired in 97, but is no longer relevant down here, things have changed.

Dad warned me to stay out of it, but it was too late.

The worst part, we are on a shared well together.

I had marked 32 cedar trees with a red x to be removed, all on my property. Some were on my side of the neighbors dam from an old farm pond.

He had his lawyer write me a letter that the extension service said the dam would deteriorate when the roots rotted once cut down. I would be liable for the dam and damage.

My lawyer said I am in the right, but it will cost me about $10,000 for the due process.

I have tried and tried to get along with this old asshole, but finally threw him off my property.
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:26 PM   #4
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Yes sir, I made the mistake of trying to be peacemaker in a feud. Had wonderful neighbors everywhere we have lived.

This old bastard retired in 97, but is no longer relevant down here, things have changed.

Dad warned me to stay out of it, but it was too late.

The worst part, we are on a shared well together.

I had marked 32 cedar trees with a red x to be removed, all on my property. Some were on my side of the neighbors dam from an old farm pond.

He had his lawyer write me a letter that the extension service said the dam would deteriorate when the roots rotted once cut down. I would be liable for the dam and damage.

My lawyer said I am in the right, but it will cost me about $10,000 for the due process.

I have tried and tried to get along with this old asshole, but finally threw him off my property.
I am sure those old Cedars have rooted out seeking water towards the pond but I seriously doubt that is what is holding that soil Dam in place. As long its got grass thats doing more than those roots. Id call the local Soil Conservation District there and get there advice its free. Also before I commenced cutting I would be sure of the line. Have a surveyor determine and mark the line every 50 feet. Sadly Missouri Statutes make it now where a complete boundary survey must be performed and not just a property line surveyed. There is a reason Dams and levees have the trees removed from them and they are cleaned and grubbed all the time. Buffalo or Brome grass is normally used to stabilize the soil on dams in this area.
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:49 PM   #5
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I am sure those old Cedars have rooted out seeking water towards the pond but I seriously doubt that is what is holding that soil Dam in place. As long its got grass thats doing more than those roots. Id call the local Soil Conservation District there and get there advice its free. Also before I commenced cutting I would be sure of the line. Have a surveyor determine and mark the line every 50 feet. Sadly Missouri Statutes make it now where a complete boundary survey must be performed and not just a property line surveyed. There is a reason Dams and levees have the trees removed from them and they are cleaned and grubbed all the time. Buffalo or Brome grass is normally used to stabilize the soil on dams in this area.
That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help!
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:08 PM   #6
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That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help!
someone probably told him he could be ****ing up the dam when he cut his side.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:23 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=HemiEd;12252512]That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help![/QUOTE

**** people. Seriously.

I don't know what all goes into damn management. Is it an Army Corps of engineers dam or a local one?
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Old 05-30-2016, 05:46 AM   #8
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**** people. Seriously.

I don't know what all goes into damn management. Is it an Army Corps of engineers dam or a local one?
It is a little cattle pond dam. Maybe 60 feet across. The pond leaks down fairly rapidly and keeps our place pretty wet in areas below it.

In the spring, the frogs will drive you crazy with their noise.

I understand Tablerock was flooded/made in 1954 and the evidence I have found on our place would indicate this was cow pasture at one time. I have removed a lot of barbed wire, some is grown into trees as are some old fence posts.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:41 AM   #9
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You will regret those populars Hemi. Yes they grow fast and yes they provide a big quick curtain BUT they don't live long, maybe 15yrs and their root system ruins your yard. I made that mistake. Maybe you get lucky and I hope you do but anybody I have ever talked to that had populars cusses them to no end like I still do. Good luck.
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