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Old 06-01-2016, 10:17 PM   #1
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Yea that's the point, Jags defense couldnt stop even the Saints, Bucs, Titans, teams you are suppose to beat/stop.

Chiefs stomp those teams with Alex Smith, because of our defenses ability to beat up on the bad teams and/or generate stops.

Bortles doesn't have that. He has to carry his team on his back, thus his entire team will vote for him, because he is far and away the best player on the Jags.
That has nothing to do with those teams defenses. All 3 are among the worst, and not much better than the Jags. You can't just ignore those other #'s I posted though. Some of those stats are really bad.

Also, he has two WR's (also in that top 100) that make up one of the best duos in the NFL. You can't ignore that either.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:27 PM   #2
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That has nothing to do with those teams defenses. All 3 are among the worst, and not much better than the Jags. You can't just ignore those other #'s I posted though. Some of those stats are really bad.

Also, he has two WR's (also in that top 100) that make up one of the best duos in the NFL. You can't ignore that either.
If your QB throws 3, 4, 5 touchdowns in a game, your team should really win it.

Chiefs have Alex Smith throwing 1 or 2 in a game and they win by 20 points sometimes. Alex threw 0 touchdowns in a game last year and the Chiefs won 33-3.

Bortles does not have that luxory. Yes 18 picks is a lot, yes 14 fumbles is a lot. Bortles should take care of the ball, but he's more Brett Favre. But the games I pointed out he really played as best as you could and his team let him down.

Alex Smith had 1 game like that in a Chiefs uniform against Indy in the playoffs and the defense let him down and this place still hasn't forgotten it. Can you imagine if that happened multiple times a season like it does with the Jaguars?
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:43 PM   #3
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If your QB throws 3, 4, 5 touchdowns in a game, your team should really win it.

Chiefs have Alex Smith throwing 1 or 2 in a game and they win by 20 points sometimes. Alex threw 0 touchdowns in a game last year and the Chiefs won 33-3.

Bortles does not have that luxory. Yes 18 picks is a lot, yes 14 fumbles is a lot. Bortles should take care of the ball, but he's more Brett Favre. But the games I pointed out he really played as best as you could and his team let him down.

Alex Smith had 1 game like that in a Chiefs uniform against Indy in the playoffs and the defense let him down and this place still hasn't forgotten it. Can you imagine if that happened multiple times a season like it does with the Jaguars?
I'll take Alex Smith's average stats, consistency, efficiency, and accuracy over Bortle's inaccuracy and gaudy stats over Bortles big stats, inconsistency, inefficiency, and inaccuracy with this team all day.

Until Bortles shows significant improvement, he is not the type of QB you can win a SB with. He would not get it done against the best defenses in the NFL with what he's shown. He couldn't even get it done against Houston's D, imagine this year when he has to play our division. There's a good chance he regresses this year.

Keep in mind, he had 10 games against the AFCS and NFCS. The two worst divisions in football last year.

Like I said, I loved this guy coming out. I think he will get there, but he might have to go backwards to move forward. This year will be a great learning experience.

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Old 06-02-2016, 01:49 AM   #4
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As its been stated before this is the top 100 going into the 2016 season. Even so Bortles is already better than Alex Smith has ever been. I don't even think it's arguable. He's had a better year than Alex has ever had in his second year with a dog shit oline, no run game, and 2 2nd year receivers (who are studs, though... Especially Robinson). It might take a little more time since they mainly addressed the defense this offseason, but Bortles is going to be elite sooner, rather than later. Take the shades off
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As its been stated before this is the top 100 going into the 2016 season. Even so Bortles is already better than Alex Smith has ever been. I don't even think it's arguable. He's had a better year than Alex has ever had in his second year with a dog shit oline, no run game, and 2 2nd year receivers (who are studs, though... Especially Robinson). It might take a little more time since they mainly addressed the defense this offseason, but Bortles is going to be elite sooner, rather than later. Take the shades off
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