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Old 06-29-2016, 01:33 PM  
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:51 PM   #31
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:03 PM   #32
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Highly talented guy. But He's a gunslinger. He needs a strong HC to sort of reign him at times.
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:05 PM   #33
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Luck averaging $24.6 million per year isn't surprising given his age and performance when healthy. Rodgers is earning $22, Flacco $22.1, Wilson $21.9 and so on.

The cap is rising a minimum of $10 million per year, so the Colts shouldn't be Cap strapped.

But the biggest challenge the Colts face is that Grigson is the worst GM in recent history, even worse than Scott Pioli in KC, and that four years after Luck was drafted, their coaching staff and roster are worse.

As for those that say Luck "isn't worth it", put him in Arizona, Denver, KC, Cincy, Minnesota, Buffalo, the Jets or the Rams.

Everyone of those teams would be an instant Super Bowl favorite for the foreseeable future with Luck as their QB.
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:16 PM   #34
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Only problem with Luck is the stupid ass turnovers he commits. He's a true franchise QB, but I would honestly rather have Russell Wilson at this point.
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:17 PM   #35
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Only problem with Luck is the stupid ass turnovers he commits. He's a true franchise QB, but I would honestly rather have Russell Wilson at this point.
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Only problem with Luck is the stupid ass turnovers he commits. He's a true franchise QB, but I would honestly rather have Russell Wilson at this point.
Alex is worth $140m then. I can't even...
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Definitely had to be done. I just hope he learns how to play with a little more concern for his health.

The o-line will be better this year so in theory that should help.

We now have Luck, Hilton, Allen, Castonzo, and Kelly all locked up through 2019.

Now, about the defense.......
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I think it's a smart move. The time is coming... in 5 years, who are the great QBs going to be? Him. Wilson, likely Newton? Luck has clearly done the most with the least out of that group.

And if you gave Luck a defense that allowed 14 ppg like Wilson has had... Luck would likely have a Super Bowl or two under his belt.
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That contract is just fine if you have a half competent GM who can add a couple defensive playmakers and an OL through the draft.

The Colts do not.
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i understand he has to sign that contract


but he should get the f out of indy, the gm is wasting his career...
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I don't know about a study but QB's can kill their own team with their salary demands.

Peyton Manning killed the colts
Brees killing the saints
Luck looks to be killing the colts again

The benefits of having a great QB start dropping as soon as they start their 'highest paid in the league' race.
Manning and Brees both have rings with those teams... Luck might get there, certainly has the potential. Matt Ryan signed a 104M deal in 2013 with just shy of $60M guaranteed.

If you want to keep a young top QB, you gotta pay him... like it or not.

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
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Russell Wilson
Joe Flacco
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees

Those 8 QBs have won 14 of the last 15 Superbowls... and they've been a part of 6 SB losses... those 8 guys get their teams to the big game, so you pay the best of the bunch now in hopes you do the same thing.

Flacco, Ryan, Luck, Stafford, Dalton, Newton ... and some others will continue to break contract records.
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But it's not as great as it was supposed to be. The average salary is less than the $25 million many were predicting. The $47 million at signing is $13 million less than Ndamukong Suh got. Pushing off $27 million of the guarantee into the third and fourth years is seen by people around the league as too risky to the player. It's a nice deal, not a great one.

In fact, it helps keep a surprisingly stagnant portion of the NFL marketplace stagnant.

The quarterback position really hasn't kept pace with recent salary-cap growth. Since Rodgers signed his contract in 2013, the NFL's salary cap has risen from $123 million to $155.27 million -- an increase of 26.2 percent. Even counting Luck's new deal, over that same time period, the top quarterback salary has risen 5.9 percent.
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Everyone wants a franchise QB. Don't want to pay for one though.

Chiefs doing it right. And in contention.
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Everyone wants a franchise QB. Don't want to pay for one though.

Chiefs doing it right. And in contention.
Bengals have 'been in contention' too... there's no true right or wrong way to do it, the trick is getting away from bad contracts or aging players before it's too late and just knowing when to move on.
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