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Old 06-20-2016, 10:46 AM  
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NBA Off-season 2016 thread
The Cavs came back and smacked the very soft Warriors down. Lebron proved he was the best player by far in the league. The NBA draft on June 23rd.

1 Philadelphia 76ers
2 Los Angeles Lakers
3 Boston Celtics
4 Phoenix Suns
5 Minnesota Timberwolves
6 New Orleans Pelicans
7 Denver Nuggets
8 Sacramento Kings
9 Toronto Raptors
10 Milwaukee Bucks
11 Orlando Magic
12 Utah Jazz
13 Phoenix Suns
14 Chicago Bulls
15 Denver Nuggets
16 Boston Celtics
17 Memphis Grizzlies
18 Detroit Pistons
19 Denver Nuggets
20 Indiana Pacers
21 Atlanta Hawks
22 Charlotte Hornets
23 Boston Celtics
24 Philadelphia 76ers
25 Los Angeles Clippers
26 Philadelphia 76ers
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:49 AM   #406
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GS is one injury away from allowing a lineup of either Parker, Green, Kawhi, Pau, Aldridge.....or Kyrie, Smith/Wade, LeBron, Tristan, and Love to beat their assess in the playoffs
Wade to the Cavs at the mid-level would be interesting.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:56 AM   #407
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Plus GS losing Bogut and Festus to play really small ball.. Even pachulia/west can't fix that problem. The lack of interior presence gives SA and CLE the advantage
Yeah, I agree to some degree. GOod players are good players, but they have to have toughness inside to guard Lebron and other big bruising players. They have let Ezeli go? Honestly it wouldn't have been a bad idea to sign a cheap, defensive minded player like Cole Aldrich but too late.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:59 AM   #408
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This is what I find fascinating about all of this, and I'm waiting for it to happen in all sports, not just the NBA. All of these teams are massively overvalued right now, which is why it was interesting to sit and listen to Russ Hanneman opine on Any Given Wednesday about how these teams are good investments.

But hey, at least you'll have Jordan Clarkson and Kendall Jenner relationship status updates during your Lakers games.
They are if you have a cap tied to revenues, I suppose.

But it does seem like the days of selling a team tied with a billion dollar TV contract in tow are probably past. If you're DeWitt and can get them sold around 2019; right as that cable money has bumped up their books but before the full onslaught of reduced television deals, you may be wise to do so.

It would be catastrophic for the Cards if he did as the debt service would grossly undermine the team's ability to maintain a competitive payroll, but I wouldn't blame him for a minute.

(But seriously, Bill - the !@#$ing team is paid for and has been for a decade...can you please get us Bryce Harper? Pretty please?)
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:01 AM   #409
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BTW, does anyone want to do a CP fantasy league next year? Maybe for about $100. Most of my friends are NFL and MLB guys, and don't follow the NBA like I do. Would be nice to be in something to keep my interest in the NBA, especially with Durant leaving my team, OKC
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:10 PM   #410
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I have to disagree. Millsap is an inferior rebounder to Love and cannot stretch the floor as well. He's only a passable three point shooter, and while he offers much, much better defense, it's going to be in the form of rim protection, which doesn't matter that much against the Warriors. You need guys with long arms and quick feet to defend them well.
That is a better fit for the Cavs. The Cavs didn't need Love to be a stretch shooter, and Love doesn't need to be that either. Love isn't at all comfortable in his role. He is not a stationary player. Bosh learned to evolve into that role. Love has not which is why the Cavs were at their best in the finals when they stopped trying to force touches to Love. And that's bad for Love because he needs to be a volume shooter.

And Love without offense is a liability even if he can rebound, because his defense is atrocious, even though he did make a terrific stop at the end of the GS game. He got knocked around in the post, which is bad, because Tristan Thompson is a completely worthless offensive player unless he's right next to the basket.

I don't think Millsap is ideal for the Cavs, but he's a much, much better fit. If Love wants to play every game like he did game 7 against GS, more power to him. But he will get frustrated as hell if that's how they want to use him. Of course, the better option is to bring in Small Forwards and move Lebron to Power Forward and force him to evolve into a post player. So from that perspective, honestly the Cavs don't need Milsap or Love. Which might actually be one of the more intriguing reasons to trade away Love and consider a Small Forward option like Wade.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:42 PM   #411
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Wade to the Bulls.

I'm cool with it, but no spacing with him and Rondo.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:51 PM   #412
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So basically the Bulls traded Derrick Rose, Jose Calderon, Dunleavy, and Holliday for Wade, Jerian Grant, and Brook Lopez. Not sure what to think though their high priced chip has a much better shot at playing time.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:52 PM   #413
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:54 PM   #414
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What a bizarre off-season for the Bulls. WTF are they doing? Hire a coach for the pace and space era, then give him a team more comfortable with early '90's basketball. Bizarre.
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Well guess I get to follow the Bulls now. I wonder if I can find all of my old Jordan stuff from my child hood.
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So basically the Bulls traded Derrick Rose, Jose Calderon, Dunleavy, and Holliday for Wade, Jerian Grant, and Brook Lopez. Not sure what to think though their high priced chip has a much better shot at playing time.
Yeah, what the hell?
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Dunleavy getting shipped to the Cavs.
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So they trade a guy that's always hurt to pay someone more that always hurt and about 10 years older?
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Dunleavy getting shipped to the Cavs.
I haven't watched him lately but that seems like a solid move. Will be interesting what they do with JR, Jefferson, and shumpert. Might make Jefferson expendable.
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The Lakers just traded for Jose Calderon so they have that going for them.
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