NBA Off-season 2016 thread

[Al Bundy]

The Cavs came back and smacked the very soft Warriors down. Lebron proved he was the best player by far in the league. The NBA draft on June 23rd.

1 Philadelphia 76ers
2 Los Angeles Lakers
3 Boston Celtics
4 Phoenix Suns
5 Minnesota Timberwolves
6 New Orleans Pelicans
7 Denver Nuggets
8 Sacramento Kings
9 Toronto Raptors
10 Milwaukee Bucks
11 Orlando Magic
12 Utah Jazz
13 Phoenix Suns
14 Chicago Bulls
15 Denver Nuggets
16 Boston Celtics
17 Memphis Grizzlies
18 Detroit Pistons
19 Denver Nuggets
20 Indiana Pacers
21 Atlanta Hawks
22 Charlotte Hornets
23 Boston Celtics
24 Philadelphia 76ers
25 Los Angeles Clippers
26 Philadelphia 76ers
27 Toronto Raptors
28 Phoenix Suns
29 San Antonio Spurs
30 Golden State Warriors

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Exactly... basketball from 1993 or so until the lockout was awful. People couldn't shoot and so they just tried to win a game 75-68.

Alonzo Mourning was (seemingly) going to the line 75 times per game to get a win. Juwan Howard was a max-deal player. It was horrible.

[ohiobronco2]

The judge that will hear about the Draymond Green incident is named Richard Ball. You cant make this shit up.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Alonzo Mourning was (seemingly) going to the line 75 times per game to get a win. Juwan Howard was a max-deal player. It was horrible.

Harden goes to the line 4329280 times a game, and some of really shitty players just got near max contracts week ago or basically 100x the money a Juwan Howard did, and at least Juwan Howard could play basketball. There are some guys that just got 10-15 million a year and are not good. (cough Mozgov cough)

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

The judge that will hear about the Draymond Green incident is named Richard Ball. You cant make this shit up.

Hope Draymond doesn't start flailing his arms and legs in the courtroom.

[RustShack]

The only difference is players get paid more, and the bottom tier players are more talented than they used to be. There's still just a few elite teams every year like there always has been and always will be.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by RustShack

The only difference is players get paid more, and the bottom tier players are more talented than they used to be. There's still just a few elite teams every year like there always has been and always will be.

We haven't really seen a dominant franchise since the 00-03 Lakers. If Durant stays, they could surpass them and any other team in NBA history.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by New World Order

We haven't really seen a dominant franchise since the 00-03 Lakers. If Durant stays, they could surpass them and any other team in NBA history.

They're not going to win 11 titles in 13 seasons

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by RustShack

The only difference is players get paid more, and the bottom tier players are more talented than they used to be. There's still just a few elite teams every year like there always has been and always will be.

There's a ton of differences... The game has changed in so many ways since the 90s to make that statement is laughable...

First of all the game is basically a 3-pt contest now, it's less physical, not as many good big-man but a lot more great guards and more players change teams because of FA... Those are the biggest differences I see.

Now I am not going to sit here and say this era is better than that era.. That's subjective.. But it's definitely different and personally I enjoyed 90s bball a lot more.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

We are in a bubble right now in the sport where the legends are too old (Dirk, Duncan, Kobe, Wade, Garnett etc) and are starting to call it a career

and the young future stars are too young (KAT, Wiggins, Prozingas, Simmons, Ingram, Davis, etc)

and the current prime of their careers talent is too thin (Curry, Thompson, Lebron, Durant, Westbrook, Leonard, CP3)

so you have a vacuum of such a small number of eligible win now types until the young talent becomes the future prime talent and shifts the market values.

Last year you called Anthony Davis a role player

[okcchief]

Durant says he wants to help the Warriors get over the hump lmao. They would have won 2 in a row if your boy Draymond wasn't a dumb ass. Of course if you would have been.able to hit a shot game 5 or 6 you would have been the hump. The dude has a right to do what he wants, but his spin is laughable. You joined a great team to get rings now ****ing own it.

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[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Last year you called Anthony Davis a role player

I never said this.

I think I argued his crowning of superstar status while not being able to win. I am critical most of him and Cousins. Two big men that can't win because of bad rosters and their inability to carry games. Really it's the stat compiler argument, nothing more than what gasbags like Bill Simmons or Rusillo argue.

I am of the stance that the current crop of big men in the NBA is terrible as none of them are getting to the playoffs and winning anything.

But I'm starting to think it's not so much they are terrible but it's more like an obsolete position to have in the NBA. Building around an elite big man apparently isn't getting you very far. But I am excited for that next generation of big men coming up (KAT, Prozingas, Simmons, etc) These guys are big and they have that versatility in their game to really carry a franchise. I would like to see the game change from a bunch of dudes shooting 3 pointers and playing small, I want to see a 7 footer just dominate his way to the finals.

I never called him a role player though.

[-King-]

Sources on @TheVertical: Russell Westbrook, Thunder reach agreement on three-year, $85M-plus contract renegotiation. https://t.co/cScRJ9ItDX

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) August 4, 2016

[okcchief]

Russ continues to show no one has a clue as to what he's about. It's the best situation for him financially and basketball wise at this moment. It also gives him flexibility if there is one a few years down the road. Hopefully the Thunder can repay his loyalty by rebuilding around him. If not it's cool that he took on the challenge.

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[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by okcchief

Russ continues to show no one has a clue as to what he's about. It's the best situation for him financially and basketball wise at this moment. It also gives him flexibility if there is one a few years down the road. Hopefully the Thunder can repay his loyalty by rebuilding around him. If not it's cool that he took on the challenge.

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It's going to be tough with that salary.

[okcchief]

Westbrook gave up 12 million over 4 years on his previous deal to make room for Ibaka and Harden. This is never brought up. Ibaka took less than he probably could have got as well. Russ deserves his money. You still have contracts you can move for another star and Adams and VO have star potential. It's still a good roster and there are opportunities that could present themselves. Barring zika, arrests or injuries one team is going to be hard to beat so it is what it is.

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