Football Adam Gase: The NFL is a dink-and-dunk league - Page 3

Shekelsteinberg · 08-12-2016, 02:38 PM

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Miami Dolphins new coach Adam Gase will run the offense that best suits his personnel, despite the catcalls for more deep throws.

When asked about an offense that throughout training camp has been a series of mostly dump-offs, screens, and short-to-intermediate routes, Gase was adamant that he's comfortable with an offense that exploits the horizontal aspect of the field more than the vertical.

"I'm fine with it. I'm the one scripting the plays, calling the plays," he said Wednesday, per the Miami Herald. "I've had a little success with what we do. There's a time and a place. There's also a time and a place not to get sacked 60 times in a year, too."

Gase's game plan in Miami not only has to do with his own personnel, but how he views the entire NFL.

"The whole league is 10 yards and under. That's what it is. Nobody is going down the field. There's one team that does it really, maybe two. Pittsburgh and Arizona. Hold onto the ball and they chuck it down the field," he said. "More teams than not, it's 10 yards and under. That's where all the passing game is. The D-ends are too good. If you want to stand back there and have your quarterbacks get your brains beat out, go at it."

Gase isn't wrong.

The top five quarterbacks in yards per attempt in 2015 were Carson Palmer (8.7 YPA), Andy Dalton (8.4), Ben Roethlisberger (8.4), Russell Wilson (8.3) and Tyrod Taylor (8.0), per Pro Football Reference. Palmer's 2015 season ranks 50th all time and nowhere near (((((((((Sid Luckman)))))))))'s top YPA of 10.9 in 1943. The likes of Tom Brady and Philip Rivers have made an art out of dicing up defenses with a diverse set of quick passes.

The NFL has gone from mad bomber to cerebral carver.

Among the top yards per attempt seasons in NFL history, Aaron Rodgers' 2011 average of 9.2 is the only one this decade in the top 20 (T-15). For reference, Nick Foles' magical -- and aberrational -- 2013 season ranks 23rd all time at 9.1 YPA, second only to 2011 Rodgers this decade (fourth-highest this millennium).

So, when you see the Dolphins' offense sticking to the quick passing game, it's not just Tannehill or Gase who are pro-dink and dunk. It's the overwhelming majority of the NFL, including notable Super Bowl champs.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...anddunk-league

What if I told you that the NFL is now an Alex Smith league?

threebag · 08-12-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

You watch Alex will under throw Hill multiple times this year.

I bet Billay sucks your dick he won't.

OldSchool · 08-12-2016, 09:12 PM

This league really is dink and dunk now though. It's become that way out of necessity due to the increase of great pass rushers and defensive schemes and a decrease in talent along the OL.

Shekelsteinberg · 08-12-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

You watch Alex will under throw Hill multiple times this year.

I am hype.

**Mav** · 08-12-2016, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I remember saying I wished we had gotten Carson Palmer over Alex Smith a few years ago and was laughed at.

Everyone is wrong sometime.

The problem with Carson Palmer is that he would of died behind the Chiefs o line.

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ThaVirus · 08-12-2016, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

The problem with Carson Palmer is that he would of died behind the Chiefs o line.

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Maybe, maybe not.

The Cardinals had a really bad offensive line for a bit as well and he's still kicking.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-12-2016, 11:27 PM

Boy it's really good we have the Dink master then...

I mean we wouldn't want to get someone who had too big of an arm, because it might mess up the dink-dunk mojo...

threebag · 08-12-2016, 11:31 PM

God bless the folks that want 75 yds pass plays every possesion.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-13-2016, 02:11 AM

Bradyis a dink and dunker. But let's not pretend his game is even remotely similar to smith's. Brady does it through lightning fast reads, not check downs. He stretches the field horizontally whereas alex relies on the middle. And he's outstanding on third downs where Alex Smith is inconsistent. I like Alex smith's game end of last year where he opened the game up. He must throw downfield not every play, but enough to loosen up the D. Even if the game is dink and dunk, most Ds don't cheat in the box on other qbs the way they do Alex.

milkman · 08-13-2016, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

They just don't trust Tannehill to throw deep, he's just giving him some confidence.

You honestly believe your dumb shit, don't you?

**Mav** · 08-13-2016, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Bradyis a dink and dunker. But let's not pretend his game is even remotely similar to smith's. Brady does it through lightning fast reads, not check downs. He stretches the field horizontally whereas alex relies on the middle. And he's outstanding on third downs where Alex Smith is inconsistent. I like Alex smith's game end of last year where he opened the game up. He must throw downfield not every play, but enough to loosen up the D. Even if the game is dink and dunk, most Ds don't cheat in the box on other qbs the way they do Alex.

This is all true

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Hammock Parties · 08-13-2016, 06:57 AM

There is a difference between "throws downfield sparingly" and "does it at a league-low rate."

I do not consent.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2016, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I can't wait to see Clay's reaction to this. That the whole league plays like his favorite QB, Alex Smith.

False statement.

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– The 21-30 yard range is essentially the border between an intermediate and a deep pass, and there are a number of different types of throws than can be made at this range.

– Alex Smith threw only 2.5% of his passes at this range, just above Robert Griffin III and Ryan Tannehill.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 08-13-2016, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Take a look at Tom Brady's game lately? How about Peyton Manning before he completely went to shit last year?

The only great QB who truly airs it out anymore is Aaron Rodgers, that's why everyone considers him the best in the league year in and year out, he can do it all with consistent success.

another QB and offense that does it regularly is Carson Palmer, but he makes far more mistakes than Rodgers does.

How does Aaron Rodgers' team perform when he plays against a top five defense? Despite being one of the best quarterbacks of all time, he has routinely lost to solid defensive teams.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 08-13-2016, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Bradyis a dink and dunker. But let's not pretend his game is even remotely similar to smith's. Brady does it through lightning fast reads, not check downs. He stretches the field horizontally whereas alex relies on the middle. And he's outstanding on third downs where Alex Smith is inconsistent. I like Alex smith's game end of last year where he opened the game up. He must throw downfield not every play, but enough to loosen up the D. Even if the game is dink and dunk, most Ds don't cheat in the box on other qbs the way they do Alex.

You also can't compare a guy who has had edelman, moss, Gronk with a guy who was stuck throwing to bowe, Hemingway, fasano, and Kyle Williams

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2016, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You also can't compare a guy who has had edelman, moss, Gronk with a guy who was stuck throwing to bowe, Hemingway, fasano, and Kyle Williams

Old news. WRs changed and Alex didn't.

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