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Old 08-13-2016, 07:51 AM  
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****Seahawks @ Chiefs Preseason GDT****
So many players to finally see in action.

No injuries and a Chiefs victory would be swell.

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Old 08-13-2016, 11:26 PM   #946
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C. West is a beast, even with the 2's.

He might have a huge year...
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:27 PM   #947
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I think Foles gets a TD with the 1's in that situation, once his timing is right
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:28 PM   #948
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Re-confirming what I saw when I first watched: all of the Seahawk QB snaps from the first team were 3 step drops with quick passes. Same as the Pats game 7 months ago.
Can't get any gauge on the pass rush when the ball goes out quickly. That's something that the backups didn't have to deal with.

But my god did Dee Ford look awful in run support today. It's like he's learned nothing.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:30 PM   #949
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But my god did Dee Ford look awful in run support today. It's like he's learned nothing.
I don't want to be too critical but yeah, we learned containment in 2nd grade
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:31 PM   #950
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Foles looks like a starter when he's observing from the sideline - Just towers over Murray once Bray is in. Looks very athletic, loving that pick up.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:33 PM   #951
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someone said he's Tom Petty's son.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:34 PM   #952
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Nicolas is going to be a player but he needs more experience and quite a bit more upper body strength.

That said, (sadly, BTW), at this point, it appears he has more upside than Ford.
Gaudy stats at Auburn boosted Ford's draft stock but he was a polarizing prospect. Freakish athletic numbers and impressive production, but somewhat of a one trick pony who was surrounded by great talent. I personally hated the pick at the time.

Nicolas would likely have been a 2nd to 3rd round prospect before the Hokies stupidly asked him to play inside their hybrid front. Nicolas has impressive pass rush skills and improved other aspects of his game while at Vtech. Many great reviews about his intangibles/work ethic and willingness to get better have circulated for some time. I loved the Nicolas pick because Dorsey got huge athletic potential and a solid character kid arguably 2-3 rounds later than where he should have been scooped up.
Ford on the other hand was over-drafted IMO and it appears that he is struggling with the pro game. What may have come easy in college is devoid in his pro performances to date. Is it work ethic? Slow processing? It may be all these things, but he is definitely trending down.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:36 PM   #953
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Dee Ford shouldn't be playing SOLB. Plain and simple. He'd be just fine if Houston were there and he was at WOLB.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:38 PM   #954
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Gaudy stats at Auburn boosted Ford's draft stock but he was a polarizing prospect. Freakish athletic numbers and impressive production, but somewhat of a one trick pony who was surrounded by great talent. I personally hated the pick at the time.

Nicolas would likely have been a 2nd to 3rd round prospect before the Hokies stupidly asked him to play inside their hybrid front. Nicolas has impressive pass rush skills and improved other aspects of his game while at Vtech. Many great reviews about his intangibles/work ethic and willingness to get better have circulated for some time. I loved the Nicolas pick because Dorsey got huge athletic potential and a solid character kid arguably 2-3 rounds later than where he should have been scooped up.
Ford on the other hand was over-drafted IMO and it appears that he is struggling with the pro game. What may have come easy in college is devoid in his pro performances to date. Is it work ethic? Slow processing? It may be all these things, but he is definitely trending down.
He was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year and had 20 sacks, so "over drafted" is a misnomer.

That said, his progress has been disappointing. He still has time to turn it around but that likelihood seems to be shrinking.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:40 PM   #955
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Dee Ford shouldn't be playing SOLB. Plain and simple. He'd be just fine if Houston were there and he was at WOLB.
While I agreed before today, man, he just seems to fail at any type of recognition
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:42 PM   #956
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someone said he's Tom Petty's son.
Heh.

Even better. Loved the acquisition of Foles from the get go, but my fandom increases if he is Tom's baby boy. Such an iconic musician and songwriter.
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Nicolas is small...I happened to be in KC and checked out a practice. He was standing next to Peters and they were roughly the same size...he's like 230.
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While I agreed before today, man, he just seems to fail at any type of recognition
Jerry Hughes, Whitney Mercilus, and Melvin Ingram all looked liked busts too going into year 3. They each didn't break out till year 4, even with more experience than Ford early on. It sucks to see him continuing to struggle, but I'm not going to overreact yet either. I'm also not going to wait till after year 4 till I say we need to start looking for his replacement though.
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He was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year and had 20 sacks, so "over drafted" is a misnomer.

That said, his progress has been disappointing. He still has time to turn it around but that likelihood seems to be shrinking.
Oh I know, but I also remember some red flags around him and scouting reports suggesting that although he was a tremendous athlete that he was not very football savvy and one dimensional. The draft is a crapshoot but I remember opinions ranging on Ford being as high as a top 12-15 pick to the bottom of the second round.
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Dee Ford shouldn't be playing SOLB. Plain and simple. He'd be just fine if Houston were there and he was at WOLB.
True..he was drafted to Hali's replacement...not Houstons. Two different positions...

The offense looked crisp out of the gate...and the O-line looked good. Seattle has a great defense. Smith will be a different QB without defenders in his face...as will Charles.

I've never seen JC run behind a good O-line...so kinda excited about it.
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