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Old 08-13-2016, 07:51 AM  
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****Seahawks @ Chiefs Preseason GDT****
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:38 PM   #1036
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Nicolas shredding 3rd stringers
As he should IF he has plans to get any 1st string snaps on D this year. The big difference I see between Ford and Nicholas besides their motors of which Ford's is barely 'idling' imo compared to 'Big Dadi" who plays in 6th gear on every play it appears is 'instinct'. Ford has never shown any anticipation in his play whatsoever as opposed to 'Big Dadi' who plays like a 'blood hound' heading everything off at the pass.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:41 PM   #1037
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Ok year 1:

1.5 sacks in 122 snaps.

First two seasons combined:

5.5 sacks in 601 snaps.

Keep trying to spin the narrative though.
What narrative?

90% of the time this guy is on the field he is a ghost. That is a fact.

One ray of sunshine hitting this dog's ass against the Chargers ain't proof of shit.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:42 PM   #1038
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What narrative?

90% of the time this guy is on the field he is a ghost. That is a fact.

One ray of sunshine hitting this dog's ass against the Chargers ain't proof of shit.
Funny how the stats are only meaningful till they prove you wrong. ****ing troll.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:44 PM   #1039
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Not sure I'd say Ford is a complete lost cause, but right now he looks like a 3rd down rusher only. He was a complete liability on running plays.

Dezman Moses was a lot better yesterday in all facets. Watch the Justin March 4th down stop. Moses was right there. If Ford doesn't step it up I'd start Moses.

Unfortunately Dee Ford is looking like GB's Nick Perry.
The whole time I'm watching these guys that you mentioned here in your statement(as well as 'Big Dadi') play against these 2nd and 3rd stringers shredding them, I'm thinking and wishing that Reid would have put Ford back in to see if he would have matched their play or dropped off. I think that would have put a red flag in Ford's heart and mind sensing that they(coaches) have serious questions about me. I would have done it if I were a coach to not only send a message but to truly find out if this kid is just a poser or not.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:44 PM   #1040
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Funny how the stats are only meaningful till they prove you wrong. ****ing troll.
When will you be picking up that authentic Dee Ford jersey? The next DT!

If this guy was in Denver or San Diego you'd be laughing your ass off at him.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:46 PM   #1041
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Khalil Mack got 5 sacks against Denver's shit RT last year. So those also do not count if we're being consistent, correct?

10 sack season then. Nothing special. He must be overrated.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:48 PM   #1042
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yea but Khalil Mack actually knows how to stop the run to go with his sacks. From day 1 really. So even if he got 5 sacks in one game, he's not going to get run over in the other games he doesn't get any pass rush like Ford does.
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When will you be picking up that authentic Dee Ford jersey? The next DT!

If this guy was in Denver or San Diego you'd be laughing your ass off at him.
I've agreed that he's struggled and is not playing at the level he needs to be playing at. That doesn't change the fact that most of his issues are in the run game, and he's been a better pass rusher than you guys want to give him credit for. The stats that you love to go to so much back it up. What's the problem?

Plus, didn't you learn your lesson from Sean Smith and Eric Fisher? Guys get better all of the time and shut you up, but continue acting like Ford's a lost cause.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:50 PM   #1044
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The whole time I'm watching these guys that you mentioned here in your statement(as well as 'Big Dadi') play against these 2nd and 3rd stringers shredding them, I'm thinking and wishing that Reid would have put Ford back in to see if he would have matched their play or dropped off. I think that would have put a red flag in Ford's heart and mind sensing that they(coaches) have serious questions about me. I would have done it if I were a coach to not only send a message but to truly find out if this kid is just a poser or not.
Dezman Moses could be a nice OLB IMO. Idk why the Packers let him go. As a rookie he had 4 sacks and a forced fumble and they just cut him after that season.

Moses only played 55 snaps last year so he hasn't exactly had a chance to show anything. This year should be the year to mix him in.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:55 PM   #1045
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The Ford saga isn't going to resolve itself over the course of a few measly preseason games.

For one thing, his supposed most valuable attribute is going to be neutered running basic schemes.

It's fair criticism of the guy for not being fundamentally sound. DT was a target of offenses running right at him, couldn't drop into coverage worth a lick, often his splits left major gap issues, and routinely ran around coverage so wide or deep he took himself out of plays.

Gunther had to scheme around him with a his Falcon position to basically give Derrick free reign 90% of the time to simply be a rush end.

Not to shit on Thomas, because Ford hasn't sniffed being remotely as dangerous on the edge or earned the right to just pin his ears back and unleashed to simply attack.

If the kid can't handle the responsibility of being an every down player and isn't going to give you at minimum 15+ sacks, cut your losses and move on. He's still on a rookie contract, so the cap implications are at least in your favor.

You've got this season to see how it works out or not. This time last year, the Fisher fan club probably consisted of Eric and his parents, and even his dad was on the fence about if he'd renew his membership.
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He has shown flashes, and if it weren't for one dismal run play where he ran backwards, the majority of average fans wouldn't be talking about his 'run' defense. He has an amazing first step, and in the pass rush game, thats invaluable. He has demonstrated good coverage skills and athleticism from the OLB position. He has worked behind two All-Pros. You simply cannot write a guy off because they haven't been on the field full time, or have taking longer to transition. Not everyone gets it the first year, especially not when you aren't even on the field.

Ford will have a good season. I guarantee it. And everyone will shut up.
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Khalil Mack got 5 sacks against Denver's shit RT last year. So those also do not count if we're being consistent, correct?
He got 10 sacks in the other games, dude. COME ON.

If Dee Ford did that I'd be sucking his dick.
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Holy shit. The irony.

I'm not cherry picking. The guys had 6 starts in his NFL career. That's it. I'm not going to judge his production in any of the other games because he never played a significant amount of snaps.

Besides, I also gave the sacks to snaps stats, and they back that up.
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