Mathews, Harrison and Peppers facing suspension

[OctoberFart]

Didn't Peyton meet and talk with the NFL? These other guys are just refusing to talk.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Didn't Peyton meet and talk with the NFL? These other guys are just refusing to talk.

Yes. Come see Herr Kommissar, kiss his ring, and hope for his love and forgiveness.

Or, as someone else tweeted:


Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 14h14 hours ago
Stephanie Stradley Retweeted Tom Pelissero
The NFL punishes players who cooperate, don't cooperate, don't cooperate enough according to thems. No win situation

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yes. Come see Herr Kommissar, kiss his ring, and hope for his love and forgiveness.

Or, as someone else tweeted:


Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 14h14 hours ago
Stephanie Stradley Retweeted Tom Pelissero
The NFL punishes players who cooperate, don't cooperate, don't cooperate enough according to thems. No win situation

So if you were the CEO of a billion dollar corporation and you wanted to speak to an employee about an issue that was reported, it would be o.k. with you for the employee to say no? No business is ran that way. Players need to stop thinking of themselves as some type of equal partners in the league. They are not. Owners are like ranch owners, Goodell is the foreman and players are the cattle.

When the foreman says I need to talk to you then you go and have a talk or get out of business. End of story.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

So if you were the CEO of a billion dollar corporation and you wanted to speak to an employee about an issue that was reported, it would be o.k. with you for the employee to say no? No business is ran that way.

Unionized businesses are something entirely different. I also note that the NFL is not the employer of any NFL player. Each club is a separate corporation which employs its players. The NFL is the organization that governs everything.

Players need to stop thinking of themselves as some type of equal partners in the league. They are not. Owners are like ranch owners, Goodell is the foreman and players are the cattle.

When the foreman says I need to talk to you then you go and have a talk or get out of business. End of story.

Sure, that is the way the league is run. That is how all professional sports franchises were run years ago, but the players thought they had some rights under the CBA. They learned the hard way that they do not -- at least not when it comes to discipline.

If your philosophy is to be perfectly ok with, say, Justin Houston being barred from teh NFL for life because he refused to speak with the Commissioner about some allegation that someone made in some newspaper anywhere without any other evidence at all, then yes, you're fine with the NFL as currently constituted.

I might be too, frankly, if the Commissioner didn't decide what he did on disciplinary matters based on which side of the bed he rolled out of, combined with a finger-in-the-air public opinion poll on any given issue.

But sure, yes, if you like the Kenesaw Mountain Landis approach, you're good with all this.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Unionized businesses are something entirely different. I also note that the NFL is not the employer of any NFL player. Each club is a separate corporation which employs its players. The NFL is the organization that governs everything.




Sure, that is the way the league is run. That is how all professional sports franchises were run years ago, but the players thought they had some rights under the CBA. They learned the hard way that they do not -- at least not when it comes to discipline.

If your philosophy is to be perfectly ok with, say, Justin Houston being barred from teh NFL for life because he refused to speak with the Commissioner about some allegation that someone made in some newspaper anywhere without any other evidence at all, then yes, you're fine with the NFL as currently constituted.

I might be too, frankly, if the Commissioner didn't decide what he did on disciplinary matters based on which side of the bed he rolled out of, combined with a finger-in-the-air public opinion poll on any given issue.

But sure, yes, if you like the Kenesaw Mountain Landis approach, you're good with all this.

It has nothing to do with what I'm good with, it's the way it is in large corporations and if the players thought the CBA was good for them or they had rights then they didn't read it. Employees are not allowed to just do whatever they want.

Lets not forget the owners fought for their CEO to have all the say in these matters. Kraft included. If your top dog that is charged with assuring the product is made with quality, like Roger is, wants to speak with you then you go and speak with them. That is in any corporation. Players like your boy and apparently other players have the attitude of "How dare he give me any demands" "I am the man". If they don't like it then they can quit and stop whining about it like little kids. They signed it and now want to complain like babies.

Roger is above them in the corporation. He is quality control and they have no choice but to comply with what he says. That is it. Brady and AP found out the hard way.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

It has nothing to do with what I'm good with, it's the way it is in large corporations and if the players thought the CBA was good for them or they had rights then they didn't read it. Employees are not allowed to just do whatever they want.

And absolutely nobody said they did.

Lets not forget the owners fought for their CEO to have all the say in these matters. Kraft included. If your top dog that is charged with assuring the product is made with quality, like Roger is, wants to speak with you then you go and speak with them. That is in any corporation. Players like your boy and apparently other players have the attitude of "How dare he give me any demands" "I am the man". If they don't like it then they can quit and stop whining about it like little kids. They signed it and now want to complain like babies.

Pretty sure nobody thought Goodell was going to become Herr Krazy Psyko Kommissar. I mean, for however many years the NFL did just fine, and then this guy comes along and hands out suspensions like Pez for everything and anything, regardless of past history, or his own rulebooks. It's crazy, and I don't blame NFL players one bit for not liking a system that makes no sense.

Roger is above them in the corporation. He is quality control and they have no choice but to comply with what he says. That is it. Brady and AP found out the hard way.

Roger and the players aren't even in the same corporation you dummy. The NFL teams delegated authority to the Commissioner's office with respect to certain matters, per the NFL partnership agreement which all clubs sign.

But whatever. Teh NFL is god and those ****tard players ought to just shut up and bend over like the little bitches they are. Ok, your position is duly noted.

[BleedingRed]

Am I the only one who is putting 2 and 2 together?

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Am I the only one who is putting 2 and 2 together?

Manning the doper.

[OctoberFart]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

So if you were the CEO of a billion dollar corporation and you wanted to speak to an employee about an issue that was reported, it would be o.k. with you for the employee to say no? No business is ran that way. Players need to stop thinking of themselves as some type of equal partners in the league. They are not. Owners are like ranch owners, Goodell is the foreman and players are the cattle.

When the foreman says I need to talk to you then you go and have a talk or get out of business. End of story.

Yeah but it doesn't fit the narrative that these posters have convinced themselves is going on. Even if you break it down to Player A cooperated with the league and did what was asked and is not in trouble. Player B refuses to cooperate and do the required interview and is thus facing discipline.

[Chiefnj2]

I'm looking forward to the pissing battle between Harrison and Roger.