Chiefs ****2016 Chiefs Training Camp Thread**** - Page 190

Dinny Bossa Nova · 05:17 PM

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staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

A lot of players have held out of TC when they've been franchised. The reigning Superbowl MVP held out of training camp.

Holding out has nothing to do with leadership.
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And yet Berry is the only one to do it this year.

If you don't understand what that has to do with leadership, then you don't understand leadership.

Mr. Laz · 08-16-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Bærry can't get no love from CP & apparently now hates KC & the fans because he doesn't tweet or fb or whatever social media enough KC luv or personally wrap his lips around every fan he encounters cock and blow them on the spot while doing the tomahawk chop.

God this derailed quick.

Whiny homer shit here, nothing more.

Let's review:

1. In a business where everyone is out for themselves, the Chiefs didn't recoup millions of dollars when they easily could.

2. This year Berry is going to be the 4th highest paid Chiefs at 10 million.

3. Apparently the Chiefs angered Berry during Contract negotiation by asking that he pay for an insurance policy that would protect BOTH party if the Chiefs gave him a huge contract. Of course the Chiefs didn't want to go after Berry's paid contract money if he got sick, they had already proven that by not going after it last year. I guess didn't appreciate it last year or now.

Now Berry is so insulted by the Chiefs not taking 5 million dollars back and paying him 10 million dollars this year that he's decided to sit out training camp and let all the young secondary guys "lead" themselves. Remember ... Berry's salary can't be judged by stats alone, he's THE team leader.

I have no idea why fans of the Chiefs are a little irritated at the moment. None whatsoever.

DJ's left nut · 08-16-2016, 05:09 PM

If I agree with Laz, I feel compelled to change my position.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If I agree with Laz, I feel compelled to change my position.

Dude, I just read his post and started to question everything I've said about this subject.

I guess if you go against the grain enough, you'll be right eventually.

-King- · 08-16-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

And yet Berry is the only one to do it this year.

If you don't understand what that has to do with leadership, then you don't understand leadership.

Or you don't understand NFL players and underestimate their intelligence. You don't think they understand they're one play away from a career ending injury? You don't think they want to see their coworkers get the most money possible before their career ends? Players understand business. They understand the risks they take when they come out to practice. They understand when certain players don't come to training camp to protect themselves.

Why do you keep acting like Berry is the only player to ever hold out? Once again the Superbowl MVP held out of training camp last year. His teammates understood. Same thing is going on with the Chiefs.
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O.city · 08-16-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If I agree with Laz, I feel compelled to change my position.

I haven't seen como around lately so I don't really k ow where to put my stances.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Or you don't understand NFL players and underestimate their intelligence. You don't think they understand they're one play away from a career ending injury? You don't think they want to see their coworkers get the most money possible before their career ends? Players understand business. They understand the risks they take when they come out to practice. They understand when certain players don't come to training camp to protect themselves.

Why do you keep acting like Berry is the only player to ever hold out? Once again the Superbowl MVP held out of training camp last year. His teammates understood. Same thing is going on with the Chiefs.
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So Eric Berry is more selfish than Alshon Jeffrey and those guys? That's the only answer. Those guys were willing to be team players and take that risk, why can't he? ESPECIALLY if he's the ultimate leader. Doesn't being a team player and a leader go hand in hand?

You can't dance around this forever.

O.city · 08-16-2016, 05:14 PM

Seems the guys who've already signed their cap deal figured the cap number was more than they were likely to make in a year on a long term deal. Like cousins and the qb number.

With berry wanting 12 per, Im guessing that's why he hasn't been so quick to sign.

-King- · 08-16-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Whiny homer shit here, nothing more.

Let's review:

1. In a business where everyone is out for themselves, the Chiefs didn't recoup millions of dollars when they easily could.

2. This year Berry is going to be the 4th highest paid Chiefs at 10 million.

3. Apparently the Chiefs angered Berry during Contract negotiation by asking that he pay for an insurance policy that would protect BOTH party if the Chiefs gave him a huge contract. Of course the Chiefs didn't want to go after Berry's paid contract money if he got sick, they had already proven that by not going after it last year. I guess didn't appreciate it last year or now.

Now Berry is so insulted by the Chiefs not taking 5 million dollars back and paying him 10 million dollars this year that he's decided to sit out training camp and let all the young secondary guys "lead" themselves. Remember ... Berry's salary can't be judged by stats alone, he's THE team leader.

I have no idea why fans of the Chiefs are a little irritated at the moment. None whatsoever.

Who said Berry was insulted? He can't possibly want to protect himself from injury?
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staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Seems the guys who've already signed their cap deal figured the cap number was more than they were likely to make in a year on a long term deal. Like cousins and the qb number.

With berry wanting 12 per, Im guessing that's why he hasn't been so quick to sign.

The risk is all the same. Regardless of that, Berry still only has one deal on the table. It's his only option, and it's more than fair.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-16-2016, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You have no idea if JC would sit out of training camp if he was franchised.

Stop making up narratives about players.
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Jamaal had a learning disability. Of course he wouldn't sit out.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Who said Berry was insulted? He can't possibly want to protect himself from injury?
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Reports from his camp clearly indicate they're upset and took it personal.

-King- · 08-16-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

So Eric Berry is more selfish than Alshon Jeffrey and those guys? That's the only answer. Those guys were willing to be team players and take that risk, why can't he? ESPECIALLY if he's the ultimate leader. Doesn't being a team player and a leader go hand in hand?

You can't dance around this forever.

He is more proven than Jeffries and can afford to miss training camp. Jeffries came in camp overweight one year. Berry had cancer and still was able to stay in shape. one can afford to miss camp, one can't simple as that.
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O.city · 08-16-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

The risk is all the same. Regardless of that, Berry still only has one deal on the table. It's his only option, and it's more than fair.

You can always tell what guys are asking for by the speed in which they sign their franchise tag.

They could still pull the tag iirc.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-16-2016, 05:19 PM

You have to be a special kind of douchebag to call these guys selfish.

Most of these guys have the education to do one thing: Play ball.

If you're extremely lucky, that happens for more than 3 years. To the human body it's like having X amount of car accidents every game - followed by painkillers, shots, therapy, etc. rinse, repeat.

All for your entertainment.

I have no issues with these guys trying to get every single penny they can to live on for the last 40+ years of their lives.

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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	You have to be a special kind of douchebag to call these guys selfish. Most of these guys have the education to do one thing: Play ball. If you're extremely lucky, that happens for more than 3 years. To the human body it's like having X amount of car accidents every game - followed by painkillers, shots, therapy, etc. rinse, repeat. All for your entertainment. I have no issues with these guys trying to get every single penny they can to live on for the last 40+ years of their lives.
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