Barnwell on Derek Carr

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You are so terrible at debate. So very terrible.

Arguing that a QB in his 11th year had fewer turnovers than a QB in his 2nd year isn't a legitimate argument that the former is better than the latter.

Especially when his ASTRONOMICAL turnover amount was less than 20.

But this fan base has been conditioned to value low turnovers > EVERYTHING ELSE at the QB position. Sad.

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Smellway

Arguing that a QB in his 11th year had fewer turnovers than a QB in his 2nd year isn't a legitimate argument that the former is better than the latter.

Especially when his ASTRONOMICAL turnover amount was less than 20.

But this fan base has been conditioned to value low turnovers > EVERYTHING ELSE at the QB position. Sad.

Actually it is. How long a player has been in the league has no bearing on how good they are right now. Now you can certainly make the point that that Carr may be better going forward as he gets experience. But if we're talking how good they are currently it's definitely a valid point.