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Old 08-18-2016, 07:52 AM  
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Barnwell on Derek Carr
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Carr's offensive line allowed him to do things that were relative luxuries for Bortles and Bridgewater, like breathe in the pocket without fearing for his life. Carr was pressured on only 21.6 percent of his dropbacks, the fifth-lowest rate among starting quarterbacks. A quarterback who gets the ball out quickly can distort that number (see: Tom Brady), but other metrics suggest that wasn't the case with Carr. He took 2.44 seconds before his typical pass, 15th in the league. Carr's average throw traveled 7.67 yards in the air, which was slightly below league average and one full yard deeper than the typical Bridgewater pass (6.66)...


It's another Oakland credo to go after enormous receivers. Carr's average pass went to a receiver who was 74.3 inches tall (a little over 6 feet 2), giving him the fourth-largest receiving corps in football. (Jacksonville's grouping was third.) Sadly, they weren't always his friends. Oakland's pass-catchers, which will return virtually unchanged in 2016, dropped 5.1 percent of Carr's throws last year. That was the fifth-worst rate in the league. It's hard to see these receivers combining to drop as many passes in 2016, particularly Cooper, who should be healthier after struggling through plantar fasciitis a year ago. While analyses suggesting Cooper dropped 18 passes seem off the mark, ESPN Stats & Information has Cooper down for 10 drops on 126 targets, the second-highest total in the league behind Tampa's Mike Evans.

The one perhaps concerning quirk surrounding Carr's 2015 season is what happened as it went along: Namely, Carr got worse. A lot worse. His QBR during Weeks 1-9, covering Oakland's first eight games, was 11th in the league at 66.6. During Oakland's final eight games, Carr's QBR dropped to just 35.1, leaving him 28th out of 29 passers. Only Bortles, coincidentally, was worse. Carr's decline came under duress. He had the league's lowest pressure rate during the first half of the year, at 17.6 percent. Over the final eight weeks, that pressure rate leaped up to 25.0 percent. That was only eighth in the league, but it was enough to help throw Carr off track....


There is something that will have to improve, though, fluke or otherwise: Late in games, for whatever reason, Carr was a mess. He posted a 19.9 QBR in the fourth quarter and overtime, which was the second-worst mark in the league ahead of Nick Foles. Bortles, one spot ahead of Carr, finished at 31.2. Seven of Carr's 13 picks came in the fourth quarter and OT, despite the fact that he threw only 31 percent of his passes during that time frame. Only Matthew Stafford had a higher interception rate in the fourth quarter/OT (6.8 percent) than Carr (5.3 percent).
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:40 PM   #211
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Somewhat irrelevant thought...when Smith's career is over, I wonder if he will be remembered primarily as a 49er or as a Chief? More years in San Fran...but so far has had more consistent success in KC.
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:40 PM   #212
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Thats my point. The fumble happened at the start of the 3rd. Too big a mistake for this team to overcome. It stinks when a fumble in the 3rd QTR is the dagger in the back in a relatively close game. The Pats merely held serv the rest of the way. Thats why longrun Id take Carr, etc over a proven consistent game manager. It wasnt Smiths fault, but things basically do have to go perfect. Once cylinder misfires and thats all she wrote.
There were a lot of things that misfired. Stop being a Claybot.
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:55 PM   #213
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Real question...do you even enjoy the Chiefs games anymore?

I told you this time last year that the team was going to win its first playoff game in a long time and you should enjoy it.

Alex played his ass off and got us that win and almost single handed lay gave us a chance to beat NE, too.

What happened to you?
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:56 PM   #214
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There were a lot of things that misfired. Stop being a Claybot.
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Real question...do you even enjoy the Chiefs games anymore?

I told you this time last year that the team was going to win its first playoff game in a long time and you should enjoy it.

Alex played his ass off and got us that win and almost single handed lay gave us a chance to beat NE, too.

What happened to you?
He found a new way to get attention.

It's an act.
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He found a new way to get attention.

It's an act.
So Clay wasn't always like this?
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So Clay wasn't always like this?
He was not. He used to worship at the alter of Larry Johnson and Damon Huard. I'm pretty sure he was vehemently pro-Herm before he decided he wasn't anymore.

And I believe "Scott Pioli: Baller Ass GM" was his handi-work.

It's all shtick.
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So Clay wasn't always like this?
Dude...

You don even know.

Clay made your views look pessimistic on the chiefs
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Dude...

You don even know.

Clay made your views look pessimistic on the chiefs
So Clay is Vader and I am Luke?

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He was not. He used to worship at the alter of Larry Johnson and Damon Huard. I'm pretty sure he was vehemently pro-Herm before he decided he wasn't anymore.

And I believe "Scott Pioli: Baller Ass GM" was his handi-work.

It's all shtick.
Wow that is ****ing nuts.
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So Clay is Vader and I am Luke?
Maybe.

But that'll just fan the flames.
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Clays like beetlejuice. If people would just quit quoting or bringing it up, it'd go away
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Clays like beetlejuice. If people would just quit quoting or bringing it up, it'd go away
He's more like Herpes.

There's always a chance that he'll just show up and ruin your day, but if you stop picking at the sores, the chances are that he'll go away much sooner and be far less likely to infect others.
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He was not. He used to worship at the alter of Larry Johnson and Damon Huard. I'm pretty sure he was vehemently pro-Herm before he decided he wasn't anymore.

And I believe "Scott Pioli: Baller Ass GM" was his handi-work.

It's all shtick.
He was the founding member of the Hermines, so....
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:47 PM   #224
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He was the founding member of the Hermines, so....
Yeah, I knew that, but I honestly couldn't remember if they like Herm or hated him. I'm pretty sure he had Herm as an avatar and then finally put the cross-out thing over it after a couple of years.

In either event, I think I'm content using this thread to try out a new phrase - Thread Clerpes.

Does it work? Because if so, this thread definitely has a case of Clerpes.
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Alex will not.


We will see I guess.


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