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Old 08-24-2016, 07:27 PM   #1
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where does this rank in draft blunders/holdouts all time so far?

1. Bo Jackson

2. Elway?

3. Eli

4. Bosa (and climbing)
And none of them amounted to anything, so bad news for Bosa.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:18 PM   #2
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And none of them amounted to anything, so bad news for Bosa.
Eli Manning didn't amount to anything?
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:20 AM   #3
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Difference is that Eli was the consensus top #1 overall pick in the draft. He was a franchise quarterback prospect that could lead a team for the next 15-years. Add in Philip Rivers, who the Giants traded to the Chargers for Eli.

Archie Manning knew what he was doing – Eli has two Super Bowl rings.

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The team offered to No. 3 overall pick Joey Bosa and his representation Tuesday evening the highest cash payout in the initial calendar year for a first-round draft pick in team history, a source said Wednesday.

It was declined.

San Diego’s best offer featured an 85 percent cash payout in 2016, sources said, or $14,464,630.

In a span from July 28 to Tuesday, they moved from a 57 percent cash payout this calendar year to an 85 percent payout, sources said. In that span, Ayrault moved his position, albeit to a scale of lesser degree. He went from a 100 percent cash payout this calendar year to a number higher than 85 percent, one that allows for a seven-figure cash deferment to 2017, sources said.

With Ayrault’s refusal, the Chargers pulled their best offer, releasing a statement Wednesday.

“As a result, we will restructure our offer since Joey will be unable to contribute for the full 16 game season without the adequate time on the practice field, in the classroom, and in preseason games.”
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ontract-offer/


Bad decision that could cost a player millions of dollars.
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:42 AM   #4
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Difference is that Eli was the consensus top #1 overall pick in the draft. He was a franchise quarterback prospect that could lead a team for the next 15-years. Add in Philip Rivers, who the Giants traded to the Chargers for Eli.

Archie Manning knew what he was doing – Eli has two Super Bowl rings.

From the San Diego Tribune:


http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ontract-offer/


Bad decision that could cost a player millions of dollars.
Bosa comes from an NFL family who happens to be pretty wealthy. He doesn't need the money. He knows he is going to get paid either by the Chargers this year or someone else next year.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:12 AM   #5
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Bosa comes from an NFL family who happens to be pretty wealthy. He doesn't need the money. He knows he is going to get paid either by the Chargers this year or someone else next year.
I do not know anything about the wealth of his family. If that is the case, why play football? Bosa should just go and work for his family because any way you slice it, San Diego has the advantage.

The trade deadline passed, therefore he has one option - Sign or sit out the season and lose millions of dollars. What team in their right mind would select Bosa in the first round after sitting out an entire season?

I agree with everyone who called him selfish. Walking away from almost $19 million on the table at age 20-21 years old is absurd.

Meanwhile, the other 31 teams are breathing a sigh of relief that they did not select him in the first round.

Just my opinion.
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:15 PM   #6
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What team in their right mind would select Bosa in the first round after sitting out an entire season?
Because you would be afraid he wouldn't sign or because he would have lost his football skills?

He could still work out for teams next spring, right? You could talk to him and his agent and agree on what the contract would be before you draft him.

Get a potential top 5 talent (I'm assuming this is the case, I don't know anything about his ability) at the end of the first round? Sounds like a good gamble (Dorsey has taken similar gambles that have paid off).
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:45 PM   #7
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Because you would be afraid he wouldn't sign or because he would have lost his football skills?

He could still work out for teams next spring, right? You could talk to him and his agent and agree on what the contract would be before you draft him.

Get a potential top 5 talent (I'm assuming this is the case, I don't know anything about his ability) at the end of the first round? Sounds like a good gamble (Dorsey has taken similar gambles that have paid off).
Although the NFL "looks the other way" when it comes to teams holding the #1 overall pick, agents are not allowed to speak with teams about contracts before players are drafted.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:13 PM   #8
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I do not know anything about the wealth of his family. If that is the case, why play football? Bosa should just go and work for his family because any way you slice it, San Diego has the advantage.

The trade deadline passed, therefore he has one option - Sign or sit out the season and lose millions of dollars. What team in their right mind would select Bosa in the first round after sitting out an entire season?

I agree with everyone who called him selfish. Walking away from almost $19 million on the table at age 20-21 years old is absurd.

Meanwhile, the other 31 teams are breathing a sigh of relief that they did not select him in the first round.

Just my opinion.
I disagree with basically this entire post. He isnt "walking away from $19M."

As far as the 31 other teams comments go, all 31 other teams would have locked him up by now, and not been petty about not giving their top draft pick what he should be getting.
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