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Old 09-29-2016, 07:04 AM  
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I really like our corners right now.
I realize I'm probably going to regret saying this as Big Ben can legitimately carve up even elite secondaries, but two guys have me super impressed, aside from the usual amazing Marcus Peters:

Phillip Gaines. He's got some technique to clean up on, but he's started this season against Hopkins/Fuller and Marshall/Decker (we'll ignore the Chargers, since Keenan Allen was beating the shit out of Peters Week 1) and held his own. These WRs are more savvy than him right now but I'm getting flashbacks to when we started Brandon Carr for his rookie year -- he'll only get better as he gets more experience. His recovery speed is awesome, and he's almost always in the receiver's pocket.

Steven Nelson. What a shock to the system this guy has been -- the staff has handled him absolutely perfectly. Redshirting him last year was just the perfect thing to do, because his versatility in the secondary this year is invaluable. He's playing 100% of the snaps because we can put him on the outside and in the slot, shifting him all over the place on every drive. While, for now, we also play him a lot on special teams. Nelson has challenged everything, and seems to have the superior technique over Gaines. Nelson is also incredibly demonstrative and energetic on the field -- a perfect pairing with Peters, and that is turning out to be a 3rd rounder well spent.

DJ White, also. We have to talk about this kid. He's played like 12 defensive snaps for us so far this year and has made plays on roughly half of them. Like Nelson, he is an incredible competitor and so energetic on the field. His play against the Chargers (on his one snap!) was around the time the defense woke up. I love this kid, I think he's a pistol and he should definitely be in the rotation in dime packages over Sorensen.

The Russell thing still makes no sense to me, but it's really regretful that he didn't wake the **** up because having yet another young corner who can play would have really bulked up this secondary.

My favorite thing about this secondary is my favorite thing about our offensive line, our defensive line, our receivers, and our passrush: barring any tragic injuries, they're going to be so much better in Week 17 than they are now. They'll learn with our great coaching staff, they'll develop with playing time, and they'll gel better as a unit and as Sutton figures out where all the pieces fit.

If we can at least limp into the playoffs with a fully healthy Houston in January, we can hang with absolutely AFC team -- except perhaps the Pats, who seem to have successfully hacked the game of football.

That's our ceiling, though. Pretty exciting.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:31 PM   #196
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I've never understood the Sorenson hate. He's a serviceable backup, quality special teamer who's filled in well when needed and has never looked like a liability.

I think people brush him off because he's white.
Glad I read on a few posts. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:45 PM   #197
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He ain't Sabby....
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:32 PM   #198
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Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
well 99.9 % of this board thinks you suck !
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Old 10-01-2016, 04:00 AM   #199
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I don't think Gaines is attempting arm tackles because he's an unwilling tackler.
I think he's attempting arm tackles because he's over run plays and throwing out his arm as a last attempt to make the play.

He's gotta clean that up.

He is missing tackles that are keeping the D on the field.
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Old 10-01-2016, 08:58 AM   #200
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I don't think Gaines is attempting arm tackles because he's an unwilling tackler.
I think he's attempting arm tackles because he's over run plays and throwing out his arm as a last attempt to make the play.

He's gotta clean that up.

He is missing tackles that are keeping the D on the field.
I agree, Milk. I don't think he's timid to tackle at all. As you suggest, his ball tracking skills (or lack of them) get him into trouble. I definitely think that's his real weakness. Shore that up and I think the tackling will also improve.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:08 AM   #201
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I love our secondary personally. It's good and young. Ron Parker is my favorite safety on this team.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:21 AM   #202
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I love our secondary personally. It's good and young. Ron Parker is my favorite safety on this team.
Yup, our entire secondary is really good. Great blend of skills with plenty of speed and feistiness. Top notch and should improve as soon of our young backups gain experience.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:23 AM   #203
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Ron Parker is better than Eric Berry
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:29 AM   #204
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Ron Parker is better than Eric Berry
They're both very good safeties. Berry being the better tackler and Parker better in coverage. Great blend making for a VERY strong secondary when combined with Peters and Gaines, Nelson, et al.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:37 AM   #205
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Phillip Gaines didn't "hold his own." He's currently PFFs 90th ranked CB in football.

I'm holding my preseason opinion: besides Peters, these guys are below average players and we'll be carved up this weekend.
You say the same bullshit every week. When you keep throwing shit against a wall, eventually some of it will stick.
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You say the same bullshit every week. When you keep throwing shit against a wall, eventually some of it will stick.
Major members of the KC media agree with me.

Time to face the facts.
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PFF is garbage. Even if he WAS 90 that would make him nickle corner worthy as he is still in the top 96 even recovering from injury. Ouch lose again troll.
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Even if he WAS 90 that would make him nickle corner worthy
Except he's playing outside.

Big Ben is going to roast this turd.
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Except he's playing outside.

Big Ben is going to roast this turd.
He comes in when we got to nickel. He's technically the #3 at the moment.

Get a ****ing clue.
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Except he's playing outside.

Big Ben is going to roast this turd.
I have seen him ranked 60. Starter worthy!
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